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#106069 - 08/11/04 02:58 PM teaching myself with no books or master
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does anyone believe the it would be possible to teach yourself. with no master. except you are your own master. No books no teacher... teach yourself. anything is possible. you pick up a stick start spining it. learn it. master it. pick up any weapon master it. move in ways like no other but like all others perfectly. who would believe him they would say impossible someone had to teach this guy there is no way he knows this.

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#106070 - 08/11/04 03:26 PM Re: teaching myself with no books or master
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Dong,
Do you mind if I call you Dong? I believe if anyone can dood it Dong can. Your journey will be long Dong. Practice safely.

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#106071 - 08/11/04 04:26 PM Re: teaching myself with no books or master
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Once again I will be the one who will tell you what you don't want to hear...........
Absolutely not!!!!Everyone needs a mentor to watch over them. If you never had a teacher in school, how do you acquire knowledge. How does one teach themselves to read at an early age? It must be taught. There are so many arguments for this, but I will stick with just one. Who is to correct you? What if you practice wrong? I have heard people say they have studied for 20 years, but if they are practicing with bad habit, wrong information, they have practiced 20 years doing the wrong thing which makes it worthless. There is much in the Martial Arts that needs refining, and only a person who knows MORE than you can do this. Besides you learn from what you do wrong, not what you do right. How will you correct yourself? You won't, so how will you change? No matter what, one needs stimulus. If not for an instructor to show you various thoughts methods etc, you will have a single idea, yours. If you don't want to be corrected, and always do things right and your way, be your own teacher, but how do you define student from teacher? You can learn from books, tapes etc, but NOTHING takes the place of being on the mat with a senior, or an instructor, there is nothing that can replace the process of being lead on a journey.

I once met a student of Jeet Kune Do, He trained with me and more and more I saw his basics were terrible, and he had nothing behind his strikes. I asked where he learned and he said he learned from tapes and a book. I asked him to perform a variation of what he was doing and he said there wasn't one, the BOOK SAID, this was it. You can see the problem. No wonder he was so sloppy.

Just because I put BMW seats in my Volswagen doesn't mean I drive a BMW, and just because I put air plane seats in my house doesn't mean my house can fly. Just because you read, study and watch Martial Arts, doesn't mean you can do them!

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#106072 - 08/11/04 06:37 PM Re: teaching myself with no books or master
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What if you have some to train with whose has been training awhile and is at blackbelt level? I train with a first degree blackbelt when I can and I've gotten to be pretty good.

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#106073 - 08/11/04 09:06 PM Re: teaching myself with no books or master
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haveing someone to train with would help me alot but my friends dont want to train with me. they dont want to get hurt. No pain no gain. what u need is a friend u can talk to and discuss an train with that wont sell u out.

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#106074 - 08/11/04 09:22 PM Re: teaching myself with no books or master
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maybe ur right

[This message has been edited by dongamongo (edited 08-11-2004).]

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#106075 - 08/11/04 11:14 PM Re: teaching myself with no books or master
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senseilou,
After I read your response to Dong I felt guilty. You words were so gracious. You provided him with great insights in a respectful manner. I was ashamed at the level to which my humor had sunk to. I enjoy and respect your contribution to the forum very much.
After his post it seemed he is just begging to be pooped on. I will do what I can to follow your excellent example.


[This message has been edited by oldman (edited 08-11-2004).]

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#106076 - 08/12/04 12:27 AM Re: teaching myself with no books or master
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You can learn to be a brain surgeon just by reading books too. I just don't know how good a brain surgeon you'd be. In 'MerKKKa aka. the Cracker Barrel anything is possible- if you're a white male born into money. If not then go buy a book and learn how to sculpt just like Michelangelo!

Or become a redneck or good-ole'-boy, change your name to a good anglicized ditty like Smith or Washington, and before you know it you'll be gettin' masked naked chicks on a regular basis, just like those guys in "Eyes Wide Shut". Yeah, "heaven is right here on earth", huh? Especially if you're a pale, cannibalistsic homicidal, thieving naked ape.

Just joking paleos!!!

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#106077 - 08/12/04 07:56 AM Re: teaching myself with no books or master
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dongamongo:
haveing someone to train with would help me alot but my friends dont want to train with me. they dont want to get hurt. [/QUOTE]

I'm not suprised, you're probably a moron.

JohnL

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#106078 - 08/12/04 11:38 PM Re: teaching myself with no books or master
Chen Zen Offline
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Posts: 7043
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Id watch it multiversed. Words like those have consequences.

SenseiLou, Long time. Good post.

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