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#105763 - 02/01/05 04:30 PM Re: Matsumura Seito karate
Sensei Paul Hart Offline
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Registered: 12/05/03
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Loc: Lehigh Acres, Florida
Akimine Sensei is most certainly alive. Charles Garrett San and Ed Gringas San are starting a new group to preserve Hohan Soken's Matsumura Seito. Akimine will take his place at the head of the group. He is a 40 year student of Hohan Soken and his Kata and Karate are top notch. If you have an interest in this association you can join the Matsumurakarate @ Yahoo Groups. The link is here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Matsumurakarate/

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#105764 - 02/01/05 06:00 PM Re: Matsumura Seito karate
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Charles Garret is whack and Gingras is the real deal. I'm surprised to hear that Sensei Gingras is messing with that guy. Oh well...

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#105765 - 02/16/05 03:20 AM Re: Matsumura Seito karate
Sensei Paul Hart Offline
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Charles Garrett is honest about the length of time he trained with Soken, he also does not speak badly of anyone unless it is to them. I believe that is the honorable way to approach a problem with another.

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#105766 - 02/18/05 08:18 AM Re: Matsumura Seito karate
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Hello Sensei Hart,

Would you have any info on Garrett and Akimini Sensei's? I'm in a very small world here, and have been out of the politics and activities of Okinawan Shorin-ryu for many years. Gingras Sensei I know.

Thanks,

Frank

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#105767 - 02/18/05 08:44 AM Re: Matsumura Seito karate
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Hello Guys,
I would like to learn some more about Matsumura Seito karate. Do you have any recomendations as far as sources or materials on your approach to training. Perhaps video clips of kata.

oldman

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#105768 - 02/18/05 10:14 AM Re: Matsumura Seito karate
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Hi OldMan,

Here is a link to one of my Sensei's sites.
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/5699/main.htm

Which in turn has links to some other sites...

Hope that this is beneficial..

ps..

keep up the humor!!!

Frank

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#105769 - 02/18/05 10:29 AM Re: Matsumura Seito karate
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by creosman:
Hi OldMan,

Here is a link to one of my Sensei's sites.
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/5699/main.htm

Which in turn has links to some other sites...

Hope that this is beneficial..

ps..

keep up the humor!!!

Frank
[/QUOTE]

Frank,
Thanks for your reply.

Even though I'm getting older I don't have any trouble keeping it up. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

oldman

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#105770 - 02/18/05 11:57 AM Re: Matsumura Seito karate
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Frank,
In looking at the photos from the recommended website I noticed the pictures from
1966. Am I correct in thinking that some of the photos are of Toma and Oyata?.
If so, are your guys training methods and execution of the forms similar to oyatas group?
I have always tried to imagine what you guys might look like actually doing the forms.

oldman

[This message has been edited by oldman (edited 02-18-2005).]

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#105771 - 02/18/05 02:28 PM Re: Matsumura Seito karate
Anonymous
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Hi Oldman,

Actually, our kata's look sorta sloppy [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG].
We practice short stance, very loose, not pretty kata to watch. Under Kise Sensei, our kata was sorta hard. Now, mostly relaxed and fast.

The kata link that someone had posted is nothing like our kata... way too stylized, way too deep a stance, etc.. pretty to watch, but doesn't look effective.


(and I am going to ignore the last comment [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG] )



[This message has been edited by creosman (edited 02-18-2005).]

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#105772 - 02/18/05 03:47 PM Re: Matsumura Seito karate
Anonymous
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Oldman,

I have to second Frank. Although where he says "sloppy",I prefer natural! My kata are like my house and office...natural [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

MSSR kata are very loose, upright and natural. Quick and efficient without any exaggerated movements. Imagine how a 70-80 year old would perform kata.

I am afraid that I don't have any video to show. Nor can I recommend places to find them in the US. I have been out of country for a very long time and am still trying to find Kindred MSSR spirits.

Talk to Frank(creosman). His Sensei was a student of Gringas. Very strong MSSR line. Also Multiversed. He trained under Ron Lindsey. Another very strong line. I am going to look to both of them now that I am home.

Glad your interested in Matsumura Seito. It really is a wonderful art.

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