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#105412 - 08/21/04 05:05 PM Re: Kata has no use in a real situation!!!!!!!!!!

Muay Thai have kata


its can call Kata. and same Kata in karate

^^ sorry for bad english -- --"

#105413 - 08/22/04 03:21 PM Re: Kata has no use in a real situation!!!!!!!!!!

As some have already said, kata will not make you a fighter. But a fighter who practices kata will have a greater understanding of their art. Kata is the building block of karate and other martial arts, and I personally believe Bruce Lee to have been ignorant about its use. By this I think he only looked at kata/forms from a 2-demensional way, by taking the moves literally, as one long fight scene, but actually they are a library of techniques that individual moves and combinations can be used. Although a very skilled and knowledgable martial artist, who was also an inovator, I believe him to have also been lacking in knowledge in certain areas. I know he didn't like Japanese martial arts as he was chinese and anti-Japanese, but he said karate is like an iron bar. He was obviously talking about Shotokan, but not all karate is like that. The majority of Okinawan Karate is fluid and flexible, and so are some of the Japanes styles. So before anyone starts saying Bruce Lee said this and that, he did not know everything. A house needs foundations to be built on, in karate, kata are those foundations.

#105414 - 08/23/04 10:49 AM Re: Kata has no use in a real situation!!!!!!!!!!
ken harding Offline

Registered: 04/21/04
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brian Mullen:
Thank you all for your input....

I have been training now for a little over a year, and I see some of the things comeing into the light, I still feel that if your sole purpose is to be a great fighter, Kata are not important.
But if you want to be a great martial artist kata are pretty important.

To be a good fighter maybe kata don't matter. To be great I think they do. A great martial artsist by definition will be a great fighter by definition although this is unlikely to be a competition fighter.
Kata teaches many things if you put the work and time in, technique sure, but body movement, angles of attack and all those blocks and punches aint what they seem either.

#105415 - 09/07/04 08:43 AM Re: Kata has no use in a real situation!!!!!!!!!!

kata sure is pointless... if you don't know the meaning of the kata and it's movents. then it really is of no benifit but if you konw the applications and what the kata is means then it is an essential training tool however it is only one of the tools, alone it is incomplete but combined with sparring and bag work it is truly essential. it teaches you the principles and techniques to enable you to defend yourself.

#105416 - 11/12/05 06:54 AM Re: Kata has no use in a real situation!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Brian Mullen]
chakuy Offline

Registered: 10/14/05
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we had something like that on the TKD Forum
"Nothing is so strong as gentleness and nothing is so gentle as real strength." -Ralph W. Sockman

#105417 - 11/12/05 04:09 PM Re: Kata has no use in a real situation!!!!!!!!!! [Re: chakuy]
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*BrianS kills the thread once and for all*

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