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#102159 - 03/23/05 06:30 PM street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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what would you suggest for something in helping you in a street fight, boxing ro wrestling i don't care about any other martial art just those to, what one would b best of the two

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#102160 - 03/23/05 06:43 PM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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Boxing.

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#102161 - 03/23/05 08:26 PM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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Why not both if you could? Find an MMA gym that also teaches a street approach.


-John

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#102162 - 03/24/05 09:50 PM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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I'd say train in the activity that you don't have much skill in. If you can strike pretty well train in wrestling, if you can fight on the ground train in boxing.

If you can do neither, learn to Box 1st, but plan to wrestle.

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#102163 - 03/29/05 06:05 AM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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I'd put my money on muay thai(thai boxing) or even better muay boran.

Wrestling/Brazillian Jiu Jitsu are great for 1v1 situations but if there's more than 1 guy which about 90% of the time there is then u need something like muay thai 2 take them all out, and by the way i rkn all the other martial arts like karate, tkd and related crap are absolutely useless because the conditioning isn't there and most of these type practitioners aren't suited to defence against hooks/straights/jabs, look at their stances they hardly ever guard the head!

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#102164 - 03/29/05 07:02 AM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mt3672:
I'd put my money on muay thai(thai boxing) or even better muay boran.

Wrestling/Brazillian Jiu Jitsu are great for 1v1 situations but if there's more than 1 guy which about 90% of the time there is then u need something like muay thai 2 take them all out, and by the way i rkn all the other martial arts like karate, tkd and related crap are absolutely useless because the conditioning isn't there and most of these type practitioners aren't suited to defence against hooks/straights/jabs, look at their stances they hardly ever guard the head!
[/QUOTE]

Don't take this lightly.You are an idiot.

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#102165 - 03/29/05 08:39 AM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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I second that. This guy has no clue what he's talking about at all. His sweeping generalisations betray his ignorance.

Go train in both Boxing and Wrestling, you'll be well prepared for most situations if you do.

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#102166 - 03/29/05 05:08 PM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Madrox:
Boxing.[/QUOTE]

Aye, jamie

[This message has been edited by Shaymo (edited 03-29-2005).]

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#102167 - 03/29/05 09:02 PM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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You should remember that both boxing and wrestling are great for the street but do not confuse street self defense with either. On the street you use whatever tactics that works for the moment.

Right cross, upper cut to a double leg take-down, hopefully he hits cracks head on the fall and you can quickly get up and apply a groin stomp.

You do not want to grapple for any extended period of time on the street and you do not want to box for 20 minutes... Get in get out quickly before the street fight turns into a knife fight with you on the short end and go home and leave the man on his back.

No rules mean evrything applies. So

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#102168 - 03/29/05 09:09 PM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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not to get off topic, but, while i love boxing, i'd feel really uncomfortable with not have any leg techniques. Having seen even dumb street brawls throw kicks to knees and (crappy) footsweeps, i'd be more comfy with having even a few basic kicks in my repetoir (hehe, butchered that word).

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#102169 - 03/29/05 09:14 PM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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My oppinion as a wrestler and a boxer. Be a boxer that knows how to wrestler. do you get wht a imean. wrestlers know a lot about how to get a guy on him back, and good ones do it fast. boxewrs know how to punch, and good ones do it damn good. so be a boxer that knows how to wrestle, and dont confuse this with being a wrestler that knows how to box. since wrestling is about pinnaing a guy, e learn a lot about moves that wont help you a street. some moves will HURT you on the street, i mean come on, hows a half nelson gonna stop a guy from shooting you. but boxers are strong, fast and can punch. so be a boxer. then learn to wrestle, but keep boxing too. that way you klnow how to take a guy down, and get good, so you can do it without him knowing what the hell happened. then ones hes down, mount him anh, hold down his left arm with your right knee if your stronger with your right hand, then grabn this left hand, now he has no hands, pound away with your strong hand. untill he says mercy. hopefully that helps

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#102170 - 04/02/05 10:21 AM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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Wrestlers tend to focus on force and power, with wrestling they will take their time to perform the most devastaing moves that they can. With boxing, when you get hit in the head you go into a "shock" or panic, a boxers straight blast will be quicj effective and is a usefull technique. If you are large and slow I would reccomend wrestling, and the smaller you are I would go with boxing, kickboxing or your preference of Martial Arts.

Im not saying if you are large you have to take wrestling or small you have to take boxing or MA, its just my opinion on what would seem to work the best. Weight a crucial factor in wrestling, boxing alike (but not as much). What im saying is you want to choose your style based around what you know you are capable of. Imagine a fight in your head and think about what you would do, if your throwing him around and grappling with him you might want to choose wrestling... and viserversa.

A combination of boxing and MA would is ideal for me, you cant go wrong with being able to deliver a solid punch and having the capability to use pressure points. It makes for a very effective street fighting. In a street fight you want to take the advantage right away, you dont want a street fight to last more then a minute or two.

[This message has been edited by coke118 (edited 04-02-2005).]

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#102171 - 04/02/05 06:31 PM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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To me when you say wrestler I think of High School and College wrestling. What's the point of that in a fight?Pin your opponent? I don't that wrestling will prepare you for a fight.If you're talking about grappeling it's a different story.
Boxing will give you good hand skills,but that's about it.
For fighting effectiveness I'd take up something designed or it. It would include reality based sparring,learning to use all weapons(feet,knees,elbows,locks,throws,etc..)
Boxing or wrestling neither one teach you all aspects of fighting,even together.

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#102172 - 04/02/05 07:06 PM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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I agree with training in both if you can, but if you have to start with just one, take the boxing first, then wrestling. After you've spent a few years doing that, then I would reconsider other MA. The basic key is learning as much as you can.

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#102173 - 04/04/05 04:02 AM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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For streetfighting one should train w/ weapons.
Getting thugged by one or more attackers is not a match, there are no rules or laws except murphy's.
Impact weapons are great. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

Knives are practical and legal almost everywhere, for now.

Firearms are not as practical for everyone, but if you're responsible get your ccw.(availabity ?)

Train with your weapons.
Train some more.
Train for street scenarios in which you use you unarmed skills to enable deployment of a weapon.
Use your unarmed skills in unison w/ weapons.

The point is, you can't rely on unarmed skill alone in a street confrontation. If running is not a option than you have to consider use of force options, then use the appropriate tool for the job.

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#102174 - 04/06/05 11:47 AM Re: street fighting, boxing or wrestling
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If limiting yourself to only those two choices then boxing would be my advice.

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