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#101666 - 02/28/05 03:25 PM Inevitable fight
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Iím just under 6ft tall and weigh around 170lbs, and 15 years of age. Recently at school, my best friend has got a new girlfriend. At first it was ok, but now she has split our friendship up completely. As a result of this i now dislike her a lot, as you would expect i donít treat her to well now, and understandably (being her boyfriend) he has taken offence. Instead of dealing with the problem and finding out what has caused my hatred he has got one of his mates to fight me. This, Iím pretty pissed about as his friend is meant to be quite hard although i donít know him. Heís about 5ft 8in i would say and not as big built as me. Anyway to cut a long story short, i have had no MA training and am nervous about how to fight him, and what to do if his friends come, this fight is inevitable as i have tried all kinds of reasoning. Could someone please give me some advice

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#101667 - 02/28/05 03:50 PM Re: Inevitable fight
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You can't learn anything here that will help you fight him. Best advice is to avoid him, his girl friend and his mate.

If you have no way to avoid fighting then do it on your terms, when he's away from his friends. If you don't know him do you know what he looks like? Does he know what you look like? If you know what he looks like but he does not know you, you have an advantage. Sucker punch him when he's least expecting an attack.

Be prepared for the consequences of your actions. If you hurt him he may get his friends after you or have you arrested. If you don't hurt him he may return the favor and whoop your butt.

You can't win either way.

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#101668 - 02/28/05 08:45 PM Re: Inevitable fight
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Sorry if you take offence as it doesnt seem like you're the agressor but can't anyone just solve their problems through talking these days? Why always this jump to "I'm gonna kick your arse" mentality? What's wrong with good old fashioned diplomacy? If this is the way the human race is these days, no wonder the world is becoming a violent place.

If you have no MA training you should just avoid a fight. If you have MA training you should avoid a fight. If you have to fight (and I do mean have to, last resort) end it quick and get out of there.

But please don't think about it as a inevitable fight. My old TKD instrutor always said if you have to fight, you've done something wrong.

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#101669 - 03/01/05 09:33 AM Re: Inevitable fight
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Well, the boy sure as hell knows who i am cause he is taunting me all the time, and it's only a matter of time until he decides to have a swing at me. For example today he decided to throw stones at me. I'm getting pretty pissed off, but i'm not the kind of person that will go and tell someone, i would rather sort the problem myself. Could you not give me any tips in how to fight him if and when it happens? The main things i'm concerned about is that if he hits me i will get angry and lay into him and maybe injure him severly, but on the other hand i dont want to hit him softly and make him think i'm a pussy. I need advice on how to deal with this fight plz.

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#101670 - 03/01/05 09:44 AM Re: Inevitable fight
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There is no answer to your question because;

1. You cannot learn how to fight or defend yourself from reading techniques from a forum;

2. It would be impossible for anyone here to predict what your aggressor may do so how can we say what techniques you could use;

3. Even if people replied from here saying choke him out, kick him in the knee, go for the groin etc. it would still be of no use to you because you won't know how apply it.

Just use your common sense. Avoid the places you know where he is likely to be. Don't put yourself in a situation where you are on your own. If you want to travel somewhere, go by car. And if confronted by him, try and talk yourself out of this situation.

Have you tried patching things up with your friend? That way he'll tell his mate to stop coming after you.

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#101671 - 03/03/05 12:40 AM Re: Inevitable fight
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Peter Pan:
Iím just under 6ft tall and weigh around 170lbs, and 15 years of age. Recently at school, my best friend has got a new girlfriend. At first it was ok, but now she has split our friendship up completely. As a result of this i now dislike her a lot, as you would expect i donít treat her to well now, and understandably (being her boyfriend) he has taken offence. Instead of dealing with the problem and finding out what has caused my hatred he has got one of his mates to fight me. This, Iím pretty pissed about as his friend is meant to be quite hard although i donít know him. Heís about 5ft 8in i would say and not as big built as me. Anyway to cut a long story short, i have had no MA training and am nervous about how to fight him, and what to do if his friends come, this fight is inevitable as i have tried all kinds of reasoning. Could someone please give me some advice[/QUOTE]

this stupid S@#* has got to stop. i swear when i was your age i used my brain and solved my own problems. if i couldnt find a way i would talk to someone older than me that i trusted like a parent. hmm novel idea? i thought so. now that i have that off my chest heres how i would solve the problem if i were in your shoes. i would walk away. theres no shame in it and no loss of any face if you dont fight. it shows that your the bigger man and wish not to waste your time doing something silly as fighting over a girl. if he's a true friend you wouldnt be in this predicament in the first place. so just walk away.

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#101672 - 03/03/05 05:01 AM Re: Inevitable fight
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Plant some weed at that guys house then call the cops annonymously. He cant fight you if hes in juvie or on probation [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

Just avoid his ass and go sleep with his sister. Thats what id do. And get your poor ass some boxing lessons

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#101673 - 03/03/05 06:03 AM Re: Inevitable fight
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[QUOTE]My old TKD instrutor always said if you have to fight, you've done something wrong.[/QUOTE]

Best advice I've ever heard. Keep away from them and try to de-escalate the situation.

Keep lots of people around you. Hang around in a group when you go about the place.

Inform an adult or the police. If the guy provokes you, do not respond. If he tries to fight, get the hell out of there. (i.e. run as fast as your legs can carry you)

I've studied MA for 15 years and that's what I'd do. Running signals your intent for self defence rather than fighting and puts you on more solid legal ground if you do have to fight. (Which you shouldn't)

Self defence does not equal fighting. Self defence is trying to keep out of dangerous situations.

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#101674 - 03/03/05 06:20 AM Re: Inevitable fight
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Peter Pan:
Well, the boy sure as hell knows who i am cause he is taunting me all the time, and it's only a matter of time until he decides to have a swing at me. For example today he decided to throw stones at me. I'm getting pretty pissed off, but i'm not the kind of person that will go and tell someone, i would rather sort the problem myself. Could you not give me any tips in how to fight him if and when it happens? The main things i'm concerned about is that if he hits me i will get angry and lay into him and maybe injure him severly, but on the other hand i dont want to hit him softly and make him think i'm a pussy. I need advice on how to deal with this fight plz.[/QUOTE]

1. Sounds like he's trying to bait you to take the first shot. Are you a hungry fish? If not, why bite?

2. You're not going to learn how to defend yourself on this forum. It takes years to learn this stuff. You're not going to learn it in one hour, not in one day, and certainly not within a week. If it could be done, we'd all be instant black belts.

You want my advice? WALK AWAY. Just ignore him and your ex-friend. With friends like that, you don't need any enemies. So what if they think you're a pussy? Are you a pussy? If not, why respond?

MA is about control - self-control. You only use it if your life depends on it. From what you've said so far, your life is in no immediate danger.

3. Go to a MA school and start taking lessons.

This is what I tell my kids, whether they be 3, 6, 10, 15, 18, 25 or 45.

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#101675 - 03/04/05 10:35 AM Re: Inevitable fight
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Spoken like true Martial Artists/Warroirs the essence of the Martial Arts is to Avoid Battle.

To qoute a Tao saying.

To fight with another is wrong, But loosing a fight over principle you deem honorable is worst. Learning to fight is as proper as learning to walk or talk. Because by learning to fight you learn to Avoid battle.

A Loose translation.

Try to avoid this conflict using the advise above. Go tell a teacher or his parent.

Nothing stated on this forum that would enhance your immediate chances, that has not been mentioned.

Being MA is hard work, not just a couple I'd do this....

[This message has been edited by Neko456 (edited 03-04-2005).]

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