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#100823 - 01/09/05 02:31 PM 30 days to train someone.
Ed Glasheen Offline

Registered: 06/21/03
Posts: 1379
Loc: Newburgh,NY,USA
What if you had only 30 days to train someone in self defense. What would you teach them?

Before you say it can not be done, lets say that you do not have that option...say you were hired to do a job for a fortune 500 company sending personel to a hostile country.

I also realize there are companies that do this or provide security like Blackwater.

What training would you provide.

Please include weapons training.


#100824 - 01/09/05 03:13 PM Re: 30 days to train someone.

Hi Ed,

Here goes...

Days 1-7
Self Defence & The Law
Awareness & Avoidance (including Col. Jeff Coopers "Colour Coding")
Attack Rituals & Geoff Thompson's 4 Dís
Behaviour Patterns
Adrenaline Management
Passive Stances

Days 8-14
Passive Stances
Basic Striking Techniques
Striking From Passive Stances

Days 15-21
Advanced Striking Techniques
Situation/Scenario Drills

Days 22-30
Defence Against Knife Attacks
Situation/Scenario Drills
Pressure Testing

And yes, I do think that it is possible. [IMG][/IMG]

Take care,


#100825 - 01/09/05 03:23 PM Re: 30 days to train someone.
Ed Glasheen Offline

Registered: 06/21/03
Posts: 1379
Loc: Newburgh,NY,USA
What do you mean by pressure testing?

#100826 - 01/09/05 03:34 PM Re: 30 days to train someone.

Damn, Gaffer!

You're HIRED!!

The only thing I think I might possibly add would be the mount/guard positions from BJJ.

Not really enough time to really internalize any submissions, but the basic positions can work wonders by themselves. (Guard position re: rape defense, for instance)

[This message has been edited by MattJ (edited 01-09-2005).]

#100827 - 01/09/05 03:51 PM Re: 30 days to train someone.

What about just drilling the hell out of them in strikes, locks, submissions, weapons defense etc, and both sparring with them and fitness everyday?

#100828 - 01/09/05 03:57 PM Re: 30 days to train someone.
still wadowoman Offline
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Registered: 04/10/04
Posts: 3420
Loc: Residence:UK- Heart:Md, USA

Good reply, obviously well thought out.

I would add some groundwork. Not necessarily to take them to the ground, but in case they take you there or you cock it up and fall/trip.

I think the knife training should include defensive and offensive use of edged and blunt weapons of different lengths, as well as using everyday objects as weapons. I would also include firearm training.

Which scenarios to play out could be a whole different thread.

Ed, great question.

#100829 - 01/09/05 04:00 PM Re: 30 days to train someone.
Ed Glasheen Offline

Registered: 06/21/03
Posts: 1379
Loc: Newburgh,NY,USA
Thank you Sharon, good choice in additional training...great to get a womans point of view.

[This message has been edited by Ed Glasheen (edited 01-09-2005).]

#100830 - 01/09/05 09:21 PM Re: 30 days to train someone.

If the trainee has absolutely no background in MA or other combat related arts or fire-arms, with due respect to Gaffer and everybody else, I just have to say it (albeit I have no practical experience in this area) -- it can't be done.

It will just give the poor guy a false sense of security.

3 months, may be. At least he will be in some physical shape and with some iron pumping, enough strength to twist an arm and dislodge a knife.

We'll just have to make up a dream-team from among the moderators [IMG][/IMG]

[This message has been edited by ButterflyPalm (edited 01-09-2005).]

#100831 - 01/09/05 09:29 PM Re: 30 days to train someone.
Chen Zen Offline
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Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 7043
Loc: Ms
I think that it could be done in the sense that the student would increase in some skills. However, this doesnt necessarily mean that every student would come out as a good fighter.

For The first eight days I would do boxing and footwork drills.

The next eight day would be Muay thai and clinch work.

The following eight days would be mount and guard work.

And the remaining six days Would be Small circle jujitsu.

Now this might not make a master but I believe he could be effective enough.

#100832 - 01/09/05 10:14 PM Re: 30 days to train someone.
reaperblack Offline

Registered: 04/30/04
Posts: 558
Loc: Victoria, BC, Canada
shizentai dachi, circle step, shorin triangle, soto uke (hand switch), 4 pressure points, 3 throws, 1 takedown, how to hyperextend an elbow from the outside and the inside.
That's it.
By soto uke I mean the exact motion that you need to step in and destroy the elbow of an oncoming punch. This block can be used with proficiency for any attack from either side and by doing the same step and block for each attack it eliminates the decision making process, which in turn reduces reaction time. This can be taught in a day and drilled repeatedly for 29. Always facing a partner, increasing in speed through the course of the month, never cooperating.
In this space of time it is important to teach as little variation as possible, work on repition of things that work.
I have assumed for this purpose that the trainee can already throw a mediocre punch, like most hetero males.

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