Can anybody but me see the difference???

Can anybody but me see the difference? I was talking with some fellow MAs combat and tournaments instructors. In this discussion we talked about training methods. I spoke of my dislike for the tournament techniques that lack focus and practicality like the point gaining finger tip touch back fist or rigdehand, using the sparring glove end as the focus point. Or the skipping on one leg Quadtriple kicking technique.

Obviously some of these Instructors took offense and stated that my practice of finger tip jabs, slapping hooks and bottom of the glove overhand rights where not standard techniques and illegal in boxing. They made mention that the finger tip jab didn't have the power of a close fist jab, nor did the open hand slap to the body over the close fist hook.

My argument is that if I let them practice their boxing/kicking boxing on me then they should let me practice my style of sparring. I feel the difference is that I'm practicing under fire where I'm attacking or countering incoming blows with the deflecting finger tip jab to the eye or side of the neck (by the way this jab will rock the head, bc of the weight of the gloves and the of speed technique, but rarely will produce a knock down). The slapping hook is my plam strikes, the overhand left is my hammer fist. Now nobody gets really hurt except what happens when you box. I mean you going full out to hit solid and its continuous. Admittedly if they corner me and start wailing on me, I may sweep them. But I can only apologies because I'm not a boxer. I mean I think its a two way street they get to wail on me and I get to train on my accuracy and feel. I think this is functional and practical for me in training. Unlike the no purpose but a point finger tip touch back fist in a tournament. Some could see the difference, others couldn't and a few think that you should only box when you box.

Can anybody else see the difference? Would it bother you to train with a unothordox technicain?

Its already been discussed that Tournament Technique and SD technique are not one in the same. That I'm not gonna touch

My only question is, where is it that your sparring people, where you're sparring Kick Boxers/Boxers and you're practicing a completely different? Or did I misunderstand something somewhere?

We are boxing and kickboxing but my goal is to train specaility applications that will follow me into the street. I'm not hurting you might even say that I'm using a weaker technique striking with the finger tips to out reach/jab them. Or defelect their incoming strikes simutaneouly hitting with this technique aimed at the eye or side of the neck. The glove want let the strike touch their eyeball hurts less then a soild jab to the eye. These techniques are intermitting if I need a keep away jab I'll close my fist, usually these things happen unbeknowing to them. Its just my mind set like fading under a hook and slapping the thigh or lower abdomen as if a grion slap, since I'm passing by. Usually they don't even feel it.

Same sport just a different mind set and slight different use of technique. As long as nobodies really hurt i don't see the problem. Its like college wrestling using jujitsu or judo grappling techinques, in a judo dojo. Slightly different submit vs. just the pin. Same control, same suffle on the ground. Different purpose or results.

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We are boxing and kickboxing but my goal is to train specaility applications that will follow me into the street. I'm not hurting you might even say that I'm using a weaker technique striking with the finger tips to out reach/jab them. Or defelect their incoming strikes simutaneouly hitting with this technique aimed at the eye or side of the neck. The glove want let the strike touch their eyeball hurts less then a soild jab to the eye. These techniques are intermitting if I need a keep away jab I'll close my fist, usually these things happen unbeknowing to them. Its just my mind set like fading under a hook and slapping the thigh or lower abdomen as if a grion slap, since I'm passing by. Usually they don't even feel it.

Same sport just a different mind set and slight different use of technique. As long as nobodies really hurt i don't see the problem. Its like college wrestling using jujitsu or judo grappling techinques, in a judo dojo. Slightly different submit vs. just the pin. Same control, same suffle on the ground. Different purpose or results.

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Well, I think you might want to find a group to go to that can aid you in a less competitive fashion and a more SD fashion.

I can come from both sides of the fence here, from the competitors point of view.

You're not giving them anything that they will face in the ring when they are actually competing, thus they feel like you're wasting their time. They won't have to defend against a finger strike, or a palm strike, etc. You have to remember, they aren't training for SD, they (as competitors) are training to go up against others who are going to use the rules of "engagement" for their respective sport.

They want to train in a way that will help them react to their situation, more than train to react to an SD situation.

However, from a Self Defense/street practice technique. I could see wanting to practice against these folks, because A) I would say that Boxing is the #1 most practiced art by the populace at large. B) These are going to be some of the faster, stronger proponents of the Boxing/Kick boxing groups..

I guess, its a matter of how open they are to you not practicing what they're practicing. If you go into it with the partner saying. I'm going to do (*blank*) and they are allright with it, thats fine. But, if you're interrupting their practice or disturbing it. I'd say out of general ettiquette, you are in a Boxing/Kick Boxing Studio/Group.

Just a thought from both sides as I see it.