The Dalai Lama tour

Posted by: Kintama

The Dalai Lama tour - 09/15/05 03:54 PM

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=ID%20Dalai%20Lama


(8/22/06 Moderator note: link expired)
Posted by: umsangil

Re: The Dalai Lama tour - 09/15/05 10:04 PM

Haha, a comment on the Dalai Lama from Tony Robbins. I almost had the chance to see the Dalai Lama speak in central park, NYC but I was unable to get in. Is the Dalai Lama continuing his tour to other cities nationwide?
Posted by: harlan

Re: The Dalai Lama tour - 09/15/05 10:11 PM

from the official site:

http://www.tibet.com/teachings.html
Posted by: Cord

Re: The Dalai Lama tour - 09/16/05 04:05 AM

Dalai Lama- cool! Do they still have the original drummer? i heard he was ill.
Anyone know who the support act is?

Posted by: Gavin

Re: The Dalai Lama tour - 09/16/05 08:34 AM

Gandhi was booked, but for some strange reason he's been cancelled. I'm a fan of his, but recently he just hasn't been that reliable on the gig'ing circuit!
Posted by: Kintama

Re: The Dalai Lama tour - 09/16/05 09:40 AM

Cord, you might be thinking of "De Lama" - 90's Belgian band with hit song "De Ideale Pênis".

not sure about the drummer...what was his name? "Maxan Drumdawhackin" or something.

anyway, thanks Harlan, for the tour dates.

...not exactly woodstock, but all we need is love...or does love=suffering too?
Posted by: harlan

Re: The Dalai Lama tour - 09/16/05 09:50 AM

Funny you should mention Woodstock...I'm actually planning on 'tripping' on up there soon...there is a Tibetian Monastary there.

Look at what those hippies started!
Posted by: Cord

Re: The Dalai Lama tour - 09/16/05 10:06 AM

Quote:

Funny you should mention Woodstock...I'm actually planning on 'tripping' on up there soon...there is a Tibetian Monastary there.

Look at what those hippies started!




Cool!, just make sure you take it easy on the herbal tea
Posted by: Kintama

Re: The Dalai Lama tour - 09/16/05 04:30 PM

make sure you make it in time for the foliage...Overlook Mountain is ...well see for yourself:
http://www.warui.com/stefan/photo/ulster/20011007/icons.html
I was up there some years ago...enjoy and breath
Posted by: harlan

Re: The Dalai Lama webcast today - 11/04/05 06:29 AM

An FYI:

Dalai Lama speaking at Stanford today.

Here is the site that gives the webcast info.
Links are not live til dAY of webcast.
Starts at 9:30 AM PT on Fri Nov 4

http://dalailama.stanford.edu/video/
Posted by: harlan

Re: The Dalai Lama webcast today - 08/22/06 08:47 AM

non-political bump

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060822/ap_on_re_as/mongolia_dalai_lama
Posted by: Crash

Re: The Dalai Lama webcast today - 09/10/06 05:27 PM

My mom told me yesterday that His Holiness was recently given Canadian citizenship, I think that's great!
Posted by: Ed_Morris

Re: The Dalai Lama webcast today - 09/12/06 07:18 AM

he's only human after all...
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/52571
Posted by: harlan

Re: The Dalai Lama webcast today - 09/12/06 07:24 AM

I've read that he actually has a keen sense of humor...and suspect he would laugh.
Posted by: Crash

Re: The Dalai Lama webcast today - 09/13/06 07:51 PM

oh jeez...
Posted by: harlan

Re: The Dalai Lama webcast today - 02/20/07 03:29 PM

bump

Guess what?! The Dalai Lama is coming to town. My town, that is...and I'm hoping somehow to get tickets.

http://www.gazettenet.com/newsroom/index...st-live-on-WGBY

http://www.hampshire.edu/hhdl/

Wish me luck!
Posted by: Ed_Morris

Re: The Dalai Lama - 05/09/07 09:17 PM

The Dalai Lama was at Smith College today (Northampton, Mass). He was speaking thru partial interpretation, his English seems to have improved somewhat - I caught some of the live local radio feed at lunchtime...he has a light but also meaningful sense of humor. http://africa.reuters.com/world/news/usnN09298250.html

something he said today (paraphrase): "...people always ask 'whats the best way to become happy?', 'whats the most effective way to happiness?', etc ...I tell them I don't know. Because what they are really asking is 'what is the quickest way to be happy with minimal amount of effort'. nothing is 'quick'. nothing is 'minimal'."



I found a transcript from a similar sit down visit at a College, to give you the gist of his 'way'.
http://www.harvard.edu/news/docs/HHDL_xscript.doc.pdf

Quote:

So since we are here, the majority of the members of the audience who have
gathered here are members of this very august and famous academic learning
center, where in fact, all of you have the flame of the intelligence very bright and
burning. So in this kind of gathering, I don’t really have anything special to offer.



Posted by: harlan

Re: The Dalai Lama - 05/09/07 10:03 PM

'I don't know.' Refreshing honesty from a world figure/leader.

On the topic, a blurb from a local guy I like, who tried to get in to see him. Talks about finding one's truth.

http://blackmoonzendo.com/3.shtml
Posted by: Ed_Morris

Re: The Dalai Lama - 05/10/07 06:56 AM

They will have the webcast archived sometime today...check back to see it:
http://www.smith.edu/its/ets/webcast/dalailama/live_stream.htm
Posted by: harlan

Re: The Dalai Lama is a 'big hitter' - 06/04/07 03:02 PM

Just for fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxIfMHhWXoY
Posted by: Ed_Morris

Re: The Dalai Lama - 09/22/07 10:55 AM

this is sortof connected to the thread topic. recently, I saw this interesting documentary:
Quote:


http://riff.withoutabox.com/festivals/event_item.php?id=8351
Believing that highly-evolved lamas choose to be reborn to lead the rest of us to nirvana, children born at auspicious times are carefully watched for signs of being a reincarnate and are usually identified at a young age by their past-life recall. These people are called trulkus/ reincarnated lamas - the most famous being the Dalai Lama. In the last remaining Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan, reincarnation is a very much a way of life. But things have taken a curious turn in recent years. It seems more and more children are claiming to be reincarnates - a situation so worrying, the Bhutanese government has stepped in to oversee the ancient process of identifying reincarnates. Born-Again Buddhists unravels the mysteries of this centuries-old Himalayan belief.





more and more children claiming to be reincarnates. hmmm...when I looked that up for a news story or something, I only got articles similar to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation_research
http://www.skepticreport.com/newage/stevensonbook.htm

perhaps not exactly the same thing...but then again, maybe connected.


I wonder if the recent news of China has something to do with those increase of claims?
Chine regulates Buddhist reincarnation
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20227400/site/newsweek/
http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3548813&page=1

If Tibet recently allows mutliple children to claim of reincarnation and recognizes them as such (according to the documentary, there are currently 45 children with recognized claim) - could that have been a modern political move to allow it? to literally 'spread its roots' by widening the lineage tree? McBuddhism ? lol

could the political counter-punch from China be in response to what it saw as a political offensive? true, that Tibetians are and have been severely repressed by the government of China since Tibetians refuse to 'play ball' to their tune...

but this whole thing, if what I'm aluding and connecting is validly linked and true, puts a serious question to the nature of cornerstones to the Buddhist religion (as a religion not as a philosophy).

If faiths are willing to redefine themselves for political or contemporary gains, then what does that say of how arbitrary a nature the institute of religion itself really is?
Posted by: Bushi_no_ki

Re: The Dalai Lama - 09/22/07 03:54 PM

Ed, one of the factors involved in this is Buddhism's belief that the cycle of reincarnation continues until you reach Nirvana. Lamas and Bodhisatvas are reborn to help people to reach Nirvana. An increase in the number of Lamas and Bodhisatvas could easily be because of an increase in the world's population. New Buddhist Forums has some really good discussions and information on it. Also, some of the members have been practicing a long time and can answer any questions you might have.
Posted by: harlan

Re: The Dalai Lama - 09/22/07 09:04 PM

Ed, if you're asking if there is a deliberate attempt by Tibetans to undermine the long term efforts of China to control Tibet by confronting the policy to determine who is a reincarnate lama...I'd say no. If you're asking if there are self-interested frauds in Tibet looking for validation...I'm sure there are. If you're enquiring about a phenomena of 'so many all of a sudden'...there are various reasons depending on your POV. And coming from a (more or less) Buddhist POV...the observation and question really shouldn't bother a Buddhist. There are politics in every religion...but rebirth, not reincarnation, is central to Buddhism, and really not open to interpretation.
Posted by: Ed_Morris

Re: The Dalai Lama - 09/23/07 10:05 PM

no, these are not frauds claiming validation. If I understood correctly, the documentary suggested that not only are there more children/families claiming it, but there are acually 45 children in recent years who have been legitimately recognized as incarnates....which is a shift away from the traditional very very few, or one.

I agree, that the metaphoric 'rebirth' is a central notion of it's teachings/philosophy. whereas reincarnation is more the policy of it's institute.

subtracting out the political guessing, I'm wondering if a institute can change it's 'rules' for Earthly/practical reasons, then how self-serving were those rules to begin with?

of course, throughout history we see blatent evidence of all religions (again, I'm only speaking in terms of the institutions - not beliefs) revamping themselves in order to survive popular thought. I mean, it would be a hard sell nowadays for an institution to take the position that all celestial bodies revolve around the Earth or that everything is only thousands of years old....yet at one time all world religions took similar official positions in thinking such.

Raised consciousness thru empirical knowledge has and will continue to drive change, as does the inescapable ripples of political change. The institute has the goal of survival - in order to survive it must change. As an institute, it can explain, reinterpret and justify the changes all it wants, but it still changes 'with the times' as best it can without seeming like a farse.

I believe you are correct though, that the individual needn't be concerned with what the institution does. A person's personal journey can't really be regulated by policy or doctrine....and that really is the important thing.
Posted by: Victor Smith

Re: The Dalai Lama - 09/24/07 11:06 AM

Ed,

I question the cynicism of trying to understand religions. If they are only of human origin perhaps it's justified, perhaps its not.

The Latter Day Saints as an institition changed doctrine on plural marriages. It's the same issue, was this a true directive from the creator, or people bowing to political convention.

But if they can't prove that it was of devine intervention, you can't prove that it was just a secular response either.

It all comes down to what faith you have.

After all China ruling Tibet is just which kid has a bigger stick after all.
Posted by: Ed_Morris

Re: The Dalai Lama - 09/24/07 01:49 PM

and I question the non-questioning.

If it's conceivable that docturine changes for secular reasons, then it's also conceivable that political agendas can be given a pass just because they fall under non-secular categories.

That seems to fit the category of 'corruption' to me. again, only at an institutional level - I'm not speaking anything about personal faiths or beliefs.
Posted by: harlan

Re: The Dalai Lama - 09/24/07 02:17 PM

Well, once direct experience devolves into an 'ism' its an artifact anyway.