Posted by: Anonymous
Impact force of a punch - 04/21/05 08:17 AM
I've tried to model a punch and the potential force that it delivers to a target.
*in order to model a punch, this calculation assumes that your body is not absorbing any of the force of impact, that all kinetic energy is transferred into the target, and that the target itself does not undergo elastic or plastic deformation upon impact*
momentum = mass x velocity
More important than momentum, is the CHANGE in momentum - this is called the IMPULSE
impulse = mass x change in velocity
Velocity provides a measure of both speed and direction, so we will assume that you can punch in a straight line! Impulse = force x time. So we get:
Force x time = mass x change in velocity
and this can be rearranged to provide:
Force = (mass x change in velocity)/time
This is the same as the F=ma equation, since accerlation = (change in velocity)/time. Observe that the greater the time over which the collision occurs, the smaller the force acting upon the object. To maximize the effect of the force on an object involved in a collision, the time must be decreased - this increases the rate of velocity change (acceleration) which is the major cause of damage. Think about hitting the rigid steering wheel in a car crash as opposed to a deformable airbag...short vs long collision time to reduce the rate of momentum change).
If you look at boxers, then they apply the reverse logic to minimize the effect of force by extending collision time. Relaxation is of central importance, and that injuries accompany tension. Hence why boxers relax their necks and allow the head to move backwards upon impact ("riding the punch") to extend the impact time of the glove to their head.
Now we can calculate some estimates. Let's assume the following:
Punch speed = 10m/s
Contact time = 0.05 seconds
Mass behind punch = 30kg
Target is stationary
In reality, you want your punch to be connected to your body weight, not simply to be the hand flying into someone's face (which would reduce the mass behind a punch by about 30 times). So assuming that you punch with your elbow aligned with your hip, and rotate the hip FORWARD toward the opponent - then I've estimated that a little under half your body mass will be transfered forward behind the punch. I have no empirical way of judging what percentage of body weight is really thrown behind the punch, so if someone has more accurate information, please do share it.
Therefore F = (30x10)/0.05 = 6000 Newtons (or kgm/s2)
So you are going to deliver 6000 Newtons of force (600kg) to the opponent. But that is not the whole story. The area over which this force is transfered is also important in determining the damage a punch will do (compare someone standing on you with stilletos on their feet rather than flat shoes). For this you can use the pressure equation:
Pressure = Force/Area
Again, let's assume that you are hitting your opponent with the bottom three nuckles of your fist, and that this represents a surface area of roughly 5 square centimetres (this is equal to 0.0005 square metres - we must use the same units in all calculations)
Pressure = 6000/0.0005 = 12 000 000 Pa (or N/m2)
This is roughly 1200 tonnes per square metre or 120kg per square centimetre!
[This message has been edited by someotherguy (edited 04-21-2005).]
*in order to model a punch, this calculation assumes that your body is not absorbing any of the force of impact, that all kinetic energy is transferred into the target, and that the target itself does not undergo elastic or plastic deformation upon impact*
momentum = mass x velocity
More important than momentum, is the CHANGE in momentum - this is called the IMPULSE
impulse = mass x change in velocity
Velocity provides a measure of both speed and direction, so we will assume that you can punch in a straight line! Impulse = force x time. So we get:
Force x time = mass x change in velocity
and this can be rearranged to provide:
Force = (mass x change in velocity)/time
This is the same as the F=ma equation, since accerlation = (change in velocity)/time. Observe that the greater the time over which the collision occurs, the smaller the force acting upon the object. To maximize the effect of the force on an object involved in a collision, the time must be decreased - this increases the rate of velocity change (acceleration) which is the major cause of damage. Think about hitting the rigid steering wheel in a car crash as opposed to a deformable airbag...short vs long collision time to reduce the rate of momentum change).
If you look at boxers, then they apply the reverse logic to minimize the effect of force by extending collision time. Relaxation is of central importance, and that injuries accompany tension. Hence why boxers relax their necks and allow the head to move backwards upon impact ("riding the punch") to extend the impact time of the glove to their head.
Now we can calculate some estimates. Let's assume the following:
Punch speed = 10m/s
Contact time = 0.05 seconds
Mass behind punch = 30kg
Target is stationary
In reality, you want your punch to be connected to your body weight, not simply to be the hand flying into someone's face (which would reduce the mass behind a punch by about 30 times). So assuming that you punch with your elbow aligned with your hip, and rotate the hip FORWARD toward the opponent - then I've estimated that a little under half your body mass will be transfered forward behind the punch. I have no empirical way of judging what percentage of body weight is really thrown behind the punch, so if someone has more accurate information, please do share it.
Therefore F = (30x10)/0.05 = 6000 Newtons (or kgm/s2)
So you are going to deliver 6000 Newtons of force (600kg) to the opponent. But that is not the whole story. The area over which this force is transfered is also important in determining the damage a punch will do (compare someone standing on you with stilletos on their feet rather than flat shoes). For this you can use the pressure equation:
Pressure = Force/Area
Again, let's assume that you are hitting your opponent with the bottom three nuckles of your fist, and that this represents a surface area of roughly 5 square centimetres (this is equal to 0.0005 square metres - we must use the same units in all calculations)
Pressure = 6000/0.0005 = 12 000 000 Pa (or N/m2)
This is roughly 1200 tonnes per square metre or 120kg per square centimetre!
[This message has been edited by someotherguy (edited 04-21-2005).]