Low Crime Rate in Japan

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And you have some statistics to support that?

Ever hear of the Balkans, or the West bank? Violent crime inevitably occurs when disparate peoples are forced into cohabitation. Just like the U.S, and now the U.K.

Japan has fiercely resisted immigration and has always accerted it's right to racial homogenity. And they have so far benefitted from it, i.e. low crime.

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This is an interesting article that might answere the initial question.

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/01/in_praise_of_ho.php

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This is an interesting article that might answere the initial question.

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/01/in_praise_of_ho.php

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That comparison actually came out much closer than I imagined, I was only looking for a country with a similar population size to that of Japan. However Japan still has a significantly lower crime rate as well as lower population.

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The problem with these stats is that the differences in population make it hard for comparison; I' m going to look into finding some clearer statistics because I'm disappointed in what I've found.

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Obviously statistics have their faults, only recorded crime is counted and there may be differences in what constitutes as recordable crime between countries and so on, but it’s the best source of information to give an overall picture.

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So which is it, closer than you thought or significantly lower rate? I don't see how you can say both.

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Translation- I can't find the data to back up my hypothesis, I must find other data.

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Translation- The data is flawed, not my hypothesis.

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Oh man

Hey 'rideonlythelabel'-

So, uhm.. unflattering facts = racist agenda, huh.

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Cord-

That was a pretty rude, but as a fellow believer in freedom I support your right to arrogantly make judgements about people you know nothing about, and assume you know exactly how they see the world.

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No, I will tell you what is 'rude' - offering as fact a pile of dross that confidently asserts that black and hispanic races carry ou their work with less professionalism and a worse attitude than other races.

WTF!!!???

yeah, those slovenly no-good wetbacks like Oscar De La Hoya, Roberto Duran, Salma Hayek, J-Lo etc,

and as for those of african descent, why, only the other day I recieved an email from Razorfoot, and having read it, I found that my MP3 collection had been ripped!!!


Give me a f*cking break.

Any article that removes the identity of the individual, and judges on prejudice, is academicaly, morally, and spiritualy, redundant.

There is an old theory that says any internet argument, when emotive enough, will evolve to a point where Hitler can/will be mentioned.

Sometimes, this is tenuous at best, other times downright ridiculous, but with today's global financial climate echoing the collapse of the 20's and 30's, there are certain parallels, and it is in such times that people are only too happy to have a scapegoat, or a target for their misery/anger.

Hitler gave his people Jews and Romanies as sources of all problems.

This report gives diversity, citing african-american and south american cultures as principle 'villains'.

As the world is mixed and diverse, and things cannot be magically reversed, what do you suggest Christy? How many will have their lives ruined/destroyed in your quest for utopia??

If thats what it takes to make it happen, you can stick your utopia up your fascist arse.

Come to think of it Christy, unless you are Native American Indian, where should they deport you?

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Cord-

Are you finished?

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Is it cold, way up there on your high horse?

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So your comparing me to Hitler, huh?

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Because an article that I posted, suggests that in the U.S at least, blacks and hispanics make up numerically less than white population but account for the statistical majority of violent crime. This is FACT.

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And pointing it out makes me a racist?!

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I would get angry, but since YOU have obviously never lived in a black ghetto or hispanic barrio here in the U.S., I'll just take your politically-correct thuggery as the rantings of a well intentioned but terribly sheltered fool.

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Grumbleweed (a member on here), recently visited a friend of his in South Central for a holiday- he got taken round house parties, went for his morning run, went drinking and having a rare old time.

I hope he wont mind me saying this, but Grumbleweed is not exactly an imposing guy - he has a 'normal' haircut, he has thick glasses, is fit, but not big, and does not give off 'dont f*ck with me' signals in any way.
What he does give signals of, is being a really nice guy, who has travelled the world, lived in many different cultures, and approaches ever individual with a friendly open mind.

Imagine that eh? scrawny white bread running around the hood with no trouble whatsoever.

I wonder why?

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Question. Were you raised the son of two white policemen in a black ghetto on the east side of Detroit in the 80's and 90's? You see, I was. I know damn well what I'm talking about when talk about crime and ethinicity.

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I was not socialized to be racist either; I grew up Catholic.

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great, so you can be a bigot, and get forgiven for it. Whats the going exchange rate on ethnic cleansing these days- 200 hail mary's? more?

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You liberal thugs are so quick to yell "RACIST!" at anyone who says something you don't agree with, that the word has lost all meaning by now. It's little more than a childs' taunt at this point. Find some new material, pal.

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Cord-

My father and your father have something in common then. Mine was at two-time Vietnam veteran as a chopper pilot, he speaks fluent Vietnamese, and encouraged me to learn foreign languages as well.

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I think there is a big difference between the exciting little weekend adventue in "the hood" that your friend had, and actually BEING RAISED THERE.

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Yep - less local knowledge, fewer people to vouch for or help him in the two weeks he spent being hosted by his black friend, that he met in Thailand, and who invited him over to meet his friends in his neighbourhood. Sounds awful

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But you seem quite sheltered, so I won't waste my breath.

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You know, the more you call me a bigot and racist, the more I think that it is actually you that is dealing with some issues.

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Sheesh, why else are getting so worked up?

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P.S. - I have plenty of friends, I don't need a 'pal' but thanks for clarifying.

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Oh wow! It's MattJ again! Been awhile, huh?

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RACIST (According to MattJ and Cord) : Anyone who says anything that is even remotely less than absolutely sparkling about anyone who isn't white. Anyone who uses statistical facts to back up such statements. Also appropriate for victims of black-on-white crime, republicans, and just about anyone who MattJ and Cord just don't agree with in general.

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Nice try. But let's go with this, instead:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist

I think these are much more accurate, but I'm sure you will disagree.

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Seriously Matt, you haven't got sh1t on me, and we both know it.

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So call me 'racist' or whatever else you like until your throat is sore and your fingertips are blistered. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself. Then take a deep breath, and go get some therapy. Peeeeace.

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Or maybe I will tell you to rotate. BTW, I grew up in Baltimore city, one block away from Morgan State university - in the 1970's. My dad was a probation officer in Washington DC - and a WW2 vet. Your upbringing does not entitle you to be an ignorant racist.

You have nothing on ME, jackass.

PS - What is it with you, with all your BS "self-reliance", that you are so quick to point the finger at anyone different? Quit whining.

And Me? Feel free to think of me as a tutu wearing, tree-hugging, granola-crunching, supporter of animal-voting rights that just BLEW YOUR ARGUMENT ALL TO HELL.

Have a nice night.

XXX OOO

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Answer the questions, if you have the courage.

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So you could afford things that my family couldn't

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So your comparing me to Hitler, huh? Because an article that I posted, suggests that in the U.S at least, blacks and hispanics make up numerically less than white population but account for the statistical majority of violent crime. This is FACT.

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http://www.csdp.org/research/hosb1203.pdf

Looking at table B page 7/27 we can see that per 100,000 people Japan has significantly less people in prison than any western country.

EU average: 87

USA: 689

Japan: 50


Obviously this is only one indication of crime rate, and only counts those criminals who are caught. Interestingly Japan also has less police.

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Fileboy, MiSt, Matt, Cord, I'll tell you what. Houses in Detroit are going for as little as $75.00 USD. Move in here, enroll your kids in the public school system, and then after 2 weeks, no make that 2 days, come up to me and spout all this crap about how racial differences have little or nothing to do with crime. Otherwise, kindly shove it.

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What killed Detroit was BLACK riots, Coleman Young, busing,

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the dismantling of undercover police units, and affirmative action.

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What killed Detroit was years of racial inequality between Whites and Blacks...

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Let me ask you this: Do you think Barrack Obama will work with less determination, or with less professionalism than Bush?

If a black cop responded to your 911 call, would you presume them to be inept?

If you walked down a street and had to pass through a group of white youths wearing hoods, would you feel more at ease than walking through a similar group of coloured youths?

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remember these? Answer the questions if you dare. What are you more afraid of - that your answers will portray you in a bad light? or that your honest answers will show that you have conflict within yourself?

As for Detroit, that was the famous vehicle producer was it not? Then the industry collapsed and the society crumbled.

A very similar thing happened in South Wales, (I am Welsh - you think you grew up in a deprived area ), when the Mines closed. And we are not just talking about a negative impact on communities, the communities only existed because of the mines. There was literaly, nothing else in way of employment. After that, drug use, violent crime and suicide rates are all increased much higher in these areas than even some big cities. And you want to talk about racial exclusivity!!! These guys are so South Walian, that you can get a hard time for being north walian when you visit. Lets just say that the only people of colour that they ever knew of were the lads covered in coal dust leaving the colliery at the end of the shift.
Then the WDA and the government enticed massive investment in the region from Japan (Honda in particular). The economy picked up, and guess what? Thats right, social problems reduced. All without any change to the racial diversity of the area. Explain that through your deetroyt eyes.

Did you just offer Matt a violent encounter!? Not very 'white' of you is it? Are you sure your not an immigrant? oh hang on, of course you are, you're a white American.

On the point of the 'undercover' police you cite as being so important - i presume at least some of them would have been black? not much point in them if they stuck out like a sore thumb in your neighbourhood huh? Imagine that? You, valuing the contribution to society of an african-american.

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Those out-dated racially motivated undercover units you mention, yes, had a few a$$holes

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I seriously doubt your area was anything like mine, Mr. Baltimore. But I'll play along.

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Ah, I see. YOUR rioting was worse than mine - it's a fine, rational argument you make there.

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Why were black people rioting? Because an ILLEGAL after hours establishment was raided. They were breaking the law, and got caught. Period.

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Their actions after that are THEIR own responsibilty,

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So you support affirmative action, huh? Not surprised. I mean after all, you've been passed over for promotions, or denied enrollment in universities because you're white, and you're still cool with it. Hat's off.

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and don't you dare try and justify that kind of lawlessness with some sh1t like "they were treated bad by the police", or some other apologist horsesh1t. Please. As if they were the only one's who were ever given a hard time by a cop.

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Those out-dated racially motivated undercover units you mention, yes, had a few a$$holes, but their presence made it safe to take the bus, walk to the store, or church, or school, without becoming a statistic.

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This is about the umteenth time you've called me names simply for having a different opinion.

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So listen, you sad little self-loathing PUNK, if you want to continue throwing insults, just PM me and I'll send you a bus ticket and we can do it in person. Obnoxious coward.

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Yes, and it's wrong for me to call you names.

OK, OK......I'll save you the bus fare, and give you the breakdown of how it would go:

* We square off, you try to hit or grab me.

* I take you down, put you in a submission, you tap.

* The end.

Should that not suffice, send a ticket here:

http://www.flinchbaughbuslineinc.com/

My name is Matt Jansson.

Have a nice day.

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My name is Matt Jansson.

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1. Don't know. It's hard to say how much someone could damage a car that someone else has already totalled. I am very confident that Obama will only make matters worse. As far as proffessionalism goes, Bush swaggered across a flight deck like buffoon, but Obama jaw-jacks with idiots at basketball games. I guess they're about equal

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Trust me, Detroit has PLENTY of inept black cops. But no, I don't make presumptions based on skin color, believe it or not. You sure like to presume that you know everything about people who are any bit different from you, though.

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3. Absolutley yes. And based off personal experience. So make of that whatever you will. What are you going to do now? Give me some title like "Xenophobic Bigot" or "KKK dragon" or whatever it's called? Go ahead. Shows how small you really are

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Well, that just goes to show you have never been to the UK - we have equality on our criminals, and that gang of white kids is every bit as likely to kerb stomp you- maybe your home turf isnt that rough after all if the thugs are so easily recognised. Sounds quite nice.
As for being small, well there is always someone bigger in life, mentaly, physicaly, and spritualy. If i am a minnow, then my god, you must be desperately unhappy with where you are on the food chain. But then, that fits nicely with your outlook- bigotry often comes from low self esteem, ignorance and a persecution/victim complex. All of which you have shown through this thread. Your hour on the couch is up herr Christy, pay at reception on your way out

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You can't even disagree with someone without resorting to personal attacks or name-calling, all of which on this thread, YOU initiated. And you call me "ignorant". You're quite a piece of work, so good luck with yourself.

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oh dear, you dont even read do you? My opening to you was that I supported your right to believe a load of unbalanced, academicaly redundant nonsense written by someone else. Thats not a personal insult, that is an insult to the work of a third party.
You then came back calling me arrogant and blah blah blah

That was the start of the personal hostility on this thread. Everything else has been watching you spiral from ignorant to confused, to contradictory, to crying 'bully' (boo hoo), to what I dont know. You have avoided answering points made in posts, choosing to insult and name call, whilst any challenge your ideals have met have been direct responses to stuff you have written. Verbal aikido only works on a complicit Uke, and I aint one to go with the flow baby.

Come back when you have actually travelled outside of Detroit and lost the chip on your shoulder from your childhood, and maybe , just maybe, you will talk some sense.

As it is, you are in a prison of your own construction.