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Folks, self-defense is a BY PRODUCT of your training! Why this isn't more obvious to people is baffling.
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Olga,
Follow this statement.
An armbar executed in a tournament setting, can result in a broken arm if, a "tap out" is not given.
That same armbar is the one you would use in a fight. Obviously you would not abide by the tournaments rules of engagement on the street and you would simply break the arm. Does that make it any clearer?
I don't know if I can make it any more OBVIOUS than that.
The choke renders unconsciousness. Can we all not see ANY self-defense application there? What about locks which break arms, shoulders, necks, legs???
No self-defense application there?
What about when you're taken down and mounted (sure, I know it can't happen to anyone on THIS forum, but play along please)?
Now all of that time you spent practicing those mount escapes, enables you to escape unharmed --- is that not self-defense training?
What about all of the experience you gain from grappling and learning how to defend from submissions? Is that not self-defense??
Folks, self-defense is a BY PRODUCT of your training! Why this isn't more obvious to people is baffling.
-John
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Olga,
Follow this statement.
An armbar executed in a tournament setting, can result in a broken arm if, a "tap out" is not given.
That same armbar is the one you would use in a fight. Obviously you would not abide by the tournaments rules of engagement on the street and you would simply break the arm. Does that make it any clearer?
I don't know if I can make it any more OBVIOUS than that.
The choke renders unconsciousness. Can we all not see ANY self-defense application there? What about locks which break arms, shoulders, necks, legs???
No self-defense application there?
What about when you're taken down and mounted (sure, I know it can't happen to anyone on THIS forum, but play along please)?
Now all of that time you spent practicing those mount escapes, enables you to escape unharmed --- is that not self-defense training?
What about all of the experience you gain from grappling and learning how to defend from submissions? Is that not self-defense??
Folks, self-defense is a BY PRODUCT of your training! Why this isn't more obvious to people is baffling.
-John
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But how and when to apply is an active process not a by product.
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Self Defense is a study unto itself that utilizes the training. But how and when to apply is an active process not a by product.
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Since there has been so much talk lately about applying grappling in Self Defense, can someone qualified please find and post a few videos into this thread of some SD-effective grappling techniques? Something non-sport please.
I don't know much about groundwork, so I am very curious to see the other end of the spectrum.
. Here is a clip I found on YouTube from the Gracie video series that demonstrates some GJJ techniques for dealing with "stand up agression". Quote:
John, you forgot to post some videos. Thank you for your post, but my question was not to define self-defense, I only asked to see some videos of effective technique.
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"how and when to apply [technique]" best learned via sparring resisting opponents?
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Self Defense is what happens from the neck up. The what to say, when to hit, when to run, what to do etc. Most Self Defense occurs long before technique enters the equation.
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Check out this video by Helio Gracie. Self defense and grappling ... excellent.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkv4d_key-ta-gracie-system
I agree with Matt, Self Defense, Competition, etc. ... there is such a fine line with very little differences. In most cases it comes down to ... I'm not stopping if you tap.
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Olga,
Follow this statement.
An armbar executed in a tournament setting, can result in a broken arm if, a "tap out" is not given.
That same armbar is the one you would use in a fight. Obviously you would not abide by the tournaments rules of engagement on the street and you would simply break the arm. Does that make it any clearer?
I don't know if I can make it any more OBVIOUS than that.
The choke renders unconsciousness. Can we all not see ANY self-defense application there? What about locks which break arms, shoulders, necks, legs???
No self-defense application there?
What about when you're taken down and mounted (sure, I know it can't happen to anyone on THIS forum, but play along please)?
Now all of that time you spent practicing those mount escapes, enables you to escape unharmed --- is that not self-defense training?
What about all of the experience you gain from grappling and learning how to defend from submissions? Is that not self-defense??
Folks, self-defense is a BY PRODUCT of your training! Why this isn't more obvious to people is baffling.
-John
John, you forgot to post some videos. Thank you for your post, but my question was not to define self-defense, I only asked to see some videos of effective technique.
Your mocking tone was unnecessary.
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John, you forgot to post some videos.
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Self Defense is a study unto itself that utilizes the training. But how and when to apply is an active process not a by product.
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Self Defense is what happens from the neck up. The what to say, when to hit, when to run, what to do etc. Most Self Defense occurs long before technique enters the equation.
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And that’s called common sense. Unfortunately there is no art that teaches a dumb person how to be a smart person.
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Common sense ain't that common.
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But how to handle yourself can be taught and is taught.
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There are plenty of things people are unaware of and we train in 'walk the street" type scenarios to prepare people for possible situations they may encounter and how to deal with them.
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Self Defense is much more then kicks and punches (or chokes)
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Self Defense is much more then kicks and punches (or chokes)