Posted by: Zach_Zinn
McDojo's and "The Consumer" ...food for thought. - 01/24/08 06:37 PM
We all know it is a popular position to revile McDojos, I think we all have a similar defnition of this term, so i won't bother trying to beat a dead horse and define it here.
The purpose of this thread is to dig deeper into the issue and maybe touch on some things people don't always think about with the McDojo phenomenon.
It seems to me that 9 times out of 10 people blame the McDojo across the board, but I have to wonder if it is the McDojo that is entirely responsible for the phenomenon, or if perhaps the attitude of people seeking martial arts instruction can play a role in the eventual creation of a McDojo.
I have been teaching a bit over a year now, and one of the things which continues to amaze me is people's weird attitudes about martial arts, when people have no previous training they often expect something very, very different from what they get. I've had more than a few people walk through the door with no previous experience, and yet have ridiculous expectations in terms of advancement and what skills can be impartment in a limited amount of time.
Also, amazingly I have found (in my thus far limited experience) that alot of people are far more willing to throw money at MA training than simply show up and put the time in. They unquestioningly have bought Gi's (usually asking about them long before I even reccomend investing in one), but actually showing up and/or doing the work seems to be the part that throws them for a loop.
When they find that they are not interested in what training really entails, they seem to almost feel cheated, I am not sure whether this is due to media presentation of martial arts or what.
I have always believed that Karate (or any MA) simply is not for everyone, but it is very difficult to square this concept with what is expected of you when you teach in any sort of public scenario.
Bottom line: Sad thing is people eat up what is served at McDojo's, but they often seem to lose interest in real training.
It would be tempting to say that these people have this attitude because they've been conditioned by the McDojo phenomenon to expect something unrealistic, but I think this explanation falls short of the mark, as you see this sort of behaviour just as often from people with no exposure whatsoever to MA as you do with ex-McDojo students.
It's a chicken or the egg type argument, what do you guys think?
The purpose of this thread is to dig deeper into the issue and maybe touch on some things people don't always think about with the McDojo phenomenon.
It seems to me that 9 times out of 10 people blame the McDojo across the board, but I have to wonder if it is the McDojo that is entirely responsible for the phenomenon, or if perhaps the attitude of people seeking martial arts instruction can play a role in the eventual creation of a McDojo.
I have been teaching a bit over a year now, and one of the things which continues to amaze me is people's weird attitudes about martial arts, when people have no previous training they often expect something very, very different from what they get. I've had more than a few people walk through the door with no previous experience, and yet have ridiculous expectations in terms of advancement and what skills can be impartment in a limited amount of time.
Also, amazingly I have found (in my thus far limited experience) that alot of people are far more willing to throw money at MA training than simply show up and put the time in. They unquestioningly have bought Gi's (usually asking about them long before I even reccomend investing in one), but actually showing up and/or doing the work seems to be the part that throws them for a loop.
When they find that they are not interested in what training really entails, they seem to almost feel cheated, I am not sure whether this is due to media presentation of martial arts or what.
I have always believed that Karate (or any MA) simply is not for everyone, but it is very difficult to square this concept with what is expected of you when you teach in any sort of public scenario.
Bottom line: Sad thing is people eat up what is served at McDojo's, but they often seem to lose interest in real training.
It would be tempting to say that these people have this attitude because they've been conditioned by the McDojo phenomenon to expect something unrealistic, but I think this explanation falls short of the mark, as you see this sort of behaviour just as often from people with no exposure whatsoever to MA as you do with ex-McDojo students.
It's a chicken or the egg type argument, what do you guys think?