Posted by: peter586
bruce lee steroids?! - 05/20/06 05:44 AM
does anyone know if bruce lee took steroids?! i read on tommy carruthers site in a forum he said that bruce took steroids! does anyone know if its true
Quote:MAybe somebody druged him up, from what I heard though, he died from swelling of the brain from an allergic reaction to a pill he took to get rid of a migrane, and I seriosly doupt he took steroids
Who knows...he was against weed too but they found cannabis leaf in his body at his autopsy
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The latest word was that he died from an extremely rear form of epilepsy.
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The latest word was that he died from an extremely rear form of epilepsy.
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Bruce may have taken steroids back then it was used to repair and build muscles, he did have a back injury and it disapear almost. Joe Lewis suppositly helps him with body building techniques and he showed great improvement. But I don't think he took the type steroid that the Super body builder and football player took thats would harm he body and mind.
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From the footage of him training that I have seen, nothing would indicate abilities over and above those attainable through regular unenhanced dedicated training.
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it's like Neko said. Bruce did have a severe back injury that almost costed him everything. the first thing the doctors do to help you get over an injury like that is for one give you pain killers and almost all of them give you some type of legal steroids to help you body repair itself to the point where you can start physical therapy.
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I myself tore 6 ligaments and 2 rotator cuff muscles in my shoulder and had to undergo surgery and was given perscribed steroids for 3 weeks before I started physical therapy.
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besides, someone in martial couldn't stand to have a big bulky body because you'll sacrifice speed and efficieny later on after you get so big.
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Bruce would never take steroids, someone that dedicated to his beliefs and believes in earning everything that you get wouldn't cheat by taking a drug to become better when steroids would only cripple you in the long run.
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all those NFL Receivers, quarterbacks, baseball players, Arlovski, Mat Hughs, all them them don't have hands half as fast as Bruce did.
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besides there's a big difference between the speed of running and the speed of kicking and punching. I've known people that can run a 4.2, 4.1 40yrd dash and can't even kick higher then their waist
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and I didn't say what kind of steroid they gave me I just stated they gave me a type of steroid, I'm not a doctor I just take what they give me, if I knew what to take then I wouldn't need the doctors.
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And I know that extreme determination causes athletes to take performance enhancing drugs you are entirely correct on that, but you have to admit that someone with a mind and heart like Bruce would not take steroids, he always believed in earning what you receive and using drugs is not earning anything. I'd rather earn something than have it given to me, it means more to you in the long run.
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Well, I hear time after time from others that Lee took some of steroids. "Just look what he had done with himself, all these muscles, board breaking, push-ups with one finger, etc." My first reaction to this - B.S.!!! At least this video can proof that he was able to do one finger push-ups then he was in his early twenties :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK-PDrjMBck&NR=1
Lot's of Wingchun practitioners likes to say such thing... I don't know if it is true, but I wached video with W.Cheung, the grand master of Wingchun, he said that Lee in his early thirties took some of steroids. But I don't tend to believe this
I need truth, not arguments which springs from some kind of emotions...
Inform me please if You will find something new about this. Thank You
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I think half the problem here is that almost all the posters (with the exception of Cord) don't know the first thing about performance enhancing drugs. I have, and continue to, studied them very, very carefully from literature published by both sides of the debate (the rabid anti-steroid campaigners and the rabid pro-steroid campaigners) and read the medical reports. I'm actually doing a 6000 word report for my A levels next year. There's some basic myths being thrown out here:
Steroids make you big. CALORIES make you big, food is the most 'anabolic' thing you can use. If you want to use steroids and not get 'big' that's perfectly possible, just don't eat like a family of four, and drop the volume a bit (go 5x5).
People who use steroids are lazy. These guys train damn hard - harder than you (yes, you!). Those American Footballers aren't just popping D-bol and ramming syringes of Test up their a$$es, they train intelligently, and above all, *very* hard.
Steroids will turn you into a mutant freak from Mars. Breasts, shrunken balls, hair loss, heart attacks, the list of supposed side-effects from steroids goes on and on. Steroids can cause side-effects. They almost certainly will. The only *definite* thing that prolonged steroid use *will* do is make you impotent. It could be temporary or permanent, there's not that much evidence beyond the anecdotal for this, and it depends on the individual. Breasts (caused by increase in Eostrogen production) shouldn't happen if you do things properly and use Eostrogen suppressents. Shrunken balls? You can use pills to stop that too. Increased rate of heart attacks? Probably just hokey, I've never seen or heard of a medical study to back this claim up. Hair loss, maybe, some do, some don't. Now, if you're reading that and thinking "waiddaminnit, Tim's advocating steroid use" then stop right there. Steroids are dangerous. There *are* side-effects, but they vary according to who you are and what you use. Believe it or not, there's a world of difference between the different steroids. That's not to mention HGH and other 'interesting' hormones. By the way, HGH causes Gastric distention (big fat stomach). Not too good if you want to impress the ladies
I'm young and healthy, steroids are for me! It couldn't be further from the truth. Steroids WILL stunt your growth. It's proven. Under 21's have NO business taking them. The great shame is that information on steroids, particularly aimed at young people, is so pi$$ poor. They trot out the same old rubbish, and then someone's mate starts taking them, his balls haven't shrivelled into marbles and he's got real hench - "hey, they must be safe" - and hey presto! The ridiculous level of steroid abuse in young people in America, dangerous and stupid. And preventable, if there was some half-decent drugs education.
Roid Rage! Steroids won't turn you into a carbon copy of the Hulk, but less green. They may make you easier to anger, and more sullen. The problem is that many of the people who take steroids were borderline psychotic/easily angered to begin with, and on steroids they've got something to prove.
More is better. It's. Just. Not. If you had a headache and I told you to take 40 aspirin, because it would be more effective, would you believe me?
With that rant off my chest, I'll conclude by saying that you have no business taking steroids unless you 1) are a competitive (ie. Olympic/NFL/NBA level) athlete, 2) have reached your genetic limit of potential (and you, yes you my friend, have not got near), 3) don't want kids, 4)are prepared to go to prison for a very long time, coz guess what, steroids are class A drugs, they're illegal.
Anyway, Bruce Lee and steroids. Cord is right as ever, there is absolutely no evidence that he did. I'm sorry, but there are amateur bodybuilders out there with a far better physique than Bruce Lee. There's no doubt that the man incorporated bodybuilding techniques into his training, in order to look good in the movies, maintained a very low bodyfat percentage, and got 'pumped' before shooting a scene. He was a good trainer evidently, but part of the reason he looks so ripped is simply because of his low bodyfat - look at Brad Pitt in Troy or Fight Club, looks more muscular than he really is because of low bodyfat. I really wish we could just put the whole Bruce Lee steroids debate to rest, because there's just no evidence for it.
Oh yeah, and if he had done steroids (intelligently) then he would have been stronger, faster and tougher. Fact.
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does anyone know if bruce lee took steroids?! i read on tommy carruthers site in a forum he said that bruce took steroids! does anyone know if its true
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Bruce Lee INVENTED steroids. Seriously.
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does anyone know if bruce lee took steroids?! i read on tommy carruthers site in a forum he said that bruce took steroids! does anyone know if its true
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Bruce Lee INVENTED steroids. Seriously.
Man, don't do that! Do you know how many kids are gonna read that? At least put a smiley if you're going to BS.
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Man, don't do that! Do you know how many kids are gonna read that? At least put a smiley if you're going to BS.
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Bruce Lee experimented with several illegal substances. It's the truth.
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If I make a joke that he INVENTED steroids, and some minds read it that aren't mature to understand sarcasm - what can I do?
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Personally, I believe the biggest thing making steroids unsafe is that they are ILLEGAL. When you make a substance or activity illegal on the grounds that it is unsafe, it only becomes more unsafe.
In the case of steroids - being illegal makes the sources untrustworthy and prohibits doctors from advising and guiding steroid users.
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I just finished reading "Unsettled Matters", by Tom Bleeker (Linda Lee's ex-husband after Bruce), and there are many indications that Bruce may have used steroids (not necessarily ones that will bulk you up, rather, ones that will get you super cut...which is what many body-buliders and others used back then...notice the size differences from then until now)
More importantly, I 100% fully believe that Bruce was poisoned...no way in holy hell that Bruce had a drug reaction like that from a perscription pain killer (not to mention the fact that he had a similar episode less than 2 months before that, but was revived)
Read the book and the timeline of just how long it took to get Bruce to the hospital, after he hadnt been breathing or had a pulse for almost two hours, and any Bruce Lee fan (like myself) should be more than fired up that he died because of incompetence
btw- I also believe that he was poisoned on 2 different occasions