JKogas question for you?

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Striking to the eyes with safety goggles isn’t completely alive because you don’t actually go into the eyes.

But ur partner can give u the energy of actually bein hit in the eyes dont u think?. Like i was saying in BJJ you dont actually brake the guys arm so that wouldnt be classed as alive would it but i know wot your saying. You know you was saying your sparring partner taps when he feels pain in a fight do you ever think that you could of got use to that taping and if the man you want to beat up or kill taps you you might let go? do you know theres surton joints in your body the ones that i know are in your foot you feel the pain after they have been damaged? do you think that using shin pads are any good with your sparring partner when doing the stop hit to the shin because it dont really give the same results does it? i havent got a trainning partner my self would you know a good way to get a few people to train with? i was gonna join JKD with this man that trained with dan inosanto i cnt remember his name but he only teachs small groups and his full at the moment so i thought id make my own little group what do ypu think? thanx again for spending time to reply.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
But ur partner can give u the energy of actually bein hit in the eyes dont u think?. [/QUOTE]

How would someone give you the "energy" of being hit in the eyes? Would they pretend to get hit and then, pretend to stumble around blinded so that you can "work your technique"? How would they give you any realistic energy from an eye jab that let you know that it worked?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
Like i was saying in BJJ you dont actually brake the guys arm so that wouldnt be classed as alive would it but i know wot your saying. [/QUOTE]

Just because it doesn't break the arm doesn't mean that it's not alive. It's completely alive because I have taken it to the point where my partner feels pain. I know at that point that any further effort on my part with the armbar will cause structural damage.

However, I got into the armbar with the same real timing, the same real motion and against full resistance from my partner. That's the very definition of aliveness.

If you're going into your partners eyes to the point where they feel that same intensity of pain, then that eye jab or gouge would be alive. But that is kind of hard to do isn't it?


[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
You know you was saying your sparring partner taps when he feels pain in a fight do you ever think that you could of got use to that taping and if the man you want to beat up or kill taps you you might let go?
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I understand your point but honestly (and please take no offense), it's a really ridiculous notion to think that I would let go of an armbar in fight if someone tapped. I wouldn't let go until I heard a pop. Even then I might continue to apply leverage just for good measure - just to make sure that I caused maximum damage.

I certainly wouldn't let go.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
do you know theres surton joints in your body the ones that i know are in your foot you feel the pain after they have been damaged? [/QUOTE]

I don't think that I understand your question. Could you rephrase that please.

Pain or not, damage to a joint is damage to a joint. That causes a certain amount of immobility. That's one of the main things I'm looking for with joint locks.


[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
do you think that using shin pads are any good with your sparring partner when doing the stop hit to the shin because it dont really give the same results does it? [/QUOTE]

Nothing wrong with that. You still have the timing, motion and energy. Stop hits aren't meant to be fight enders. I don't see any problem with wearing shin guards. They help keep the shins from getting banged up and keep people coming back to train. That's the reason why people tap in practice instead of allowing their arms to get broken.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
i havent got a trainning partner my self would you know a good way to get a few people to train with? [/QUOTE]

Put some flyers around and set up a website.


[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
i was gonna join JKD with this man that trained with dan inosanto i cnt remember his name but he only teachs small groups and his full at the moment so i thought id make my own little group what do ypu think? thanx again for spending time to reply.

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I don't see any problem with that as long as you're attending training sessions and not just studying out of books and videos. You have to go out to seminars and visit gyms to get live, hands on instruction and coaching.

Then you take what you've learned back to your group and train. You can use videos and DVDs to supplement what you're doing. I don't see anything wrong with that again, as long as you're still getting that training. Become a student of someone, even if it's a long distance thing, it's better than nothing.

Good luck with all your endeavors.


-John

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How would someone give you the "energy" of being hit in the eyes? Would they pretend to get hit and then, pretend to stumble around blinded so that you can "work your technique"? How would they give you any realistic energy from an eye jab that let you know that it worked?

maybe ur rite but thats the most aliveness u can get out of the eye jab dont you think?

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If you're going into your partners eyes to the point where they feel that same intensity of pain, then that eye jab or gouge would be alive. But that is kind of hard to do isn't it?


LOL your rite unless uve got someone who dnt mind getting poked in the eye.


I understand your point but honestly (and please take no offense), it's a really ridiculous notion to think that I would let quote:
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I certainly wouldn't let go.

LOL no offence taken i was just checking thats all.


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Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
do you know theres surton joints in your body the ones that i know are in your foot you feel the pain after they have been damaged?

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I don't think that I understand your question. Could you rephrase that please.

Pain or not, damage to a joint is damage to a joint. That causes a certain amount of immobility. That's one of the main things I'm looking for with joint locks.


I said to make sure you know i dont want you breaking your sparring partners foot if you dont know wer it is its connected to the ancle (spelling) theres tun of nerves going from ur ancle to ur leg and the way u break it is by twisting the foot clockwise. Im telling you this just to make sure that you dnt do it on your sparring partner because he or she wont feel pain untill its broke.
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Put some flyers around and set up a website.


what flyers? do you know wer i can make my own website?

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I don't see any problem with that as long as you're attending training sessions and not just studying out of books and videos. You have to go out to seminars and visit gyms to get live, hands on instruction and coaching.

Then you take what you've learned back to your group and train. You can use videos and DVDs to supplement what you're doing. I don't see anything wrong with that again, as long as you're still getting that training. Become a student of someone, even if it's a long distance thing, it's better than nothing.

Good luck with all your endeavors.


They dont do seminars where i live what are they anyway?. Do you think i should join a Martial Art style and please give answer why? and if so which one do you think would be effective to do? i think you dont really like wing chung?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
maybe ur rite but thats the most aliveness u can get out of the eye jab dont you think? [/QUOTE]
Are you saying that you think it’s a good idea to pretend to be blinded when someone pretends to poke someone else in the eyes?
Do YOU think it’s a good idea to give pretend feedback from a technique? Do you think that credible fighting skills can be developed through contrived practice? I don’t. Your opponents in real fights certainly won’t be pretending. It would make sense that your training partners shouldn’t either. After all, you “play (fight) like you practice”. If you’re pretending to train, then you’ll be pretending to fight when the time comes as well. Only your opponent WON’T be.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

LOL your rite unless uve got someone who dnt mind getting poked in the eye. [/QUOTE]

Yes, it’s kind of difficult to find people who don’t mind being poked in the eye with any regularity to create consistent feedback on the success or failure of impracticable technique.

Again, there’s nothing wrong with practicing the eye jab so long as it’s just supplemental to your regular (credible/practicable) training.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

I said to make sure you know i dont want you breaking your sparring partners foot if you dont know wer it is its connected to the ancle (spelling) theres tun of nerves going from ur ancle to ur leg and the way u break it is by twisting the foot clockwise. Im telling you this just to make sure that you dnt do it on your sparring partner because he or she wont feel pain untill its broke.
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That’s with the heel hook. Naturally we have to be a little more careful with such techniques. I agree, the distance between feeling pain and needing rehabilitation is quite short. In other words, it doesn’t take long between the moment your partner feels pain and the subsequent ligament damage. That’s a very good point. Heel hooks are very dangerous and have to be practiced carefully.


[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

They dont do seminars where i live what are they anyway?. Do you think i should join a Martial Art style and please give answer why? and if so which one do you think would be effective to do? i think you dont really like wing chung?
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Seminars are just a gathering of martial artists where training occurs. If they don’t have any where you’re at, it might be a good idea to join a martial arts school. Anything is better than nothing at all.

You’re right, I’m not a big fan of wing chun. If that’s the only choice you have, it’s better than nothing. Just try and get some sparring in if you can regardless of where you go to train.

If you cant, try and get a friends together and practice using whatever reference material that you can find. Do that and spar safely and often.

Cheers!

-John

[This message has been edited by JKogas (edited 03-01-2005).]

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Are you saying that you think it’s a good idea to pretend to be blinded when someone pretends to poke someone else in the eyes?
Do YOU think it’s a good idea to give pretend feedback from a technique? Do you think that credible fighting skills can be developed through contrived practice? I don’t. Your opponents in real fights certainly won’t be pretending. It would make sense that your training partners shouldn’t either. After all, you “play (fight) like you practice”. If you’re pretending to train, then you’ll be pretending to fight when the time comes as well. Only your opponent WON’T be.


LOL theres alot of questions there ill get you back on this one. To be honest i dont know if it will help or not ive never tried it to juge it.


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That’s with the heel hook. Naturally we have to be a little more careful with such techniques. I agree, the distance between feeling pain and needing rehabilitation is quite short. In other words, it doesn’t take long between the moment your partner feels pain and the subsequent ligament damage. That’s a very good point. Heel hooks are very dangerous and have to be practiced carefully.

Yep thats the one im on about the heel hook kick.

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Seminars are just a gathering of martial artists where training occurs. If they don’t have any where you’re at, it might be a good idea to join a martial arts school. Anything is better than nothing at all.


yeh i might join a Martial art school i might do muay thai thats along the lines of what i am training in now not exatcly the same. I put some flyers out about an hour ago ill just have to wait for the results tomorrow.

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You’re right, I’m not a big fan of wing chun. If that’s the only choice you have, it’s better than nothing. Just try and get some sparring in if you can regardless of where you go to train.


I know why you dnt like wing chun you think there range dont exist in a street fight ive heard paul vunak say that theres alot of people that dont know how to fight in that range thats why he likes it so much but bruce also said the same thing he still trained his wing chun alot of people think he dropped it completly but i heard dan inosanto say that he always trained it with him in in one of his videos.

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If you cant, try and get a friends together and practice using whatever reference material that you can find. Do that and spar safely and often.


like i said ive put some flyers out now ill have to wait for the results i said on the flyer i can only accept 5 people to train with so that i have enough time to train with them all.How often do you think 1 should spend on there sparring a day? i think your gonna say it depends how much uve progressed. i read one of your other posts saying:
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Well, actually that is addressed at any of the Straight Blast Gyms.
The video you just saw was only about the concept of aliveness.

Going slowly through unfamiliar/new moves IS done. There is a progression to learning. It's called the "I METHOD". That's a different aspect.

Doing moves slowly for a few times, is called the "I"ntroduction phase of the I method. You do the move a few minutes to get mechanics down and then you begin adding progressive resistance and drilling it. Thats the second phase and it's more alive. That's called the "I"solation phase.

you say u do the moves slow a few times when your doing it slow do you hit air? do you move? and when you say a few times do you mean a few times a day or a few times and then dont do it ever again and move on adding progressive resistance? and what do you mean by drilling it out?


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Finally, all the isolated "pieces" are brough together as one whole via sparring, and that's the "I"ntregration phase - where everything is integrated into one's whole game.


by that do you mean when uve added enough resistance you only practise them tecniques in sparring?

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If done properly, you'll never have to go BACK to the introduction phase to "rehash" a move you've learned - you just tone down the intensity of the energy/resistance you're getting during drills.

what do you mean by you just tone down the intensity of the energy/resistance you're getting during drills.

Do you mean you dont use as much resistance against your sparring partner if so why?

thanx for spending so much time to reply again by the way i got your email from that site if you dont mind? have you got msn? what country do you live in and what city?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

I know why you dnt like wing chun you think there range dont exist in a street fight ive heard paul vunak say that theres alot of people that dont know how to fight in that range thats why he likes it so much [/QUOTE]

The “trapping range” (the very range the wing chun bases itself around is an illusional range. It doesn’t really exist as the wing chun practitioners do it. That range is called the “range of exchanges”. What happens when you’re nearly face to face but not quite in the clinch is, people throw massive amounts of punches at your head and shoot in to take you down! “Trapping” as the wing chun guys do it DOES NOT WORK. Never WILL work, on any decent opponent. THAT is why I don’t like wing chun. It’s whole ideology is based upon a false premise.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

but bruce also said the same thing he still trained his wing chun alot of people think he dropped it completly but i heard dan inosanto say that he always trained it with him in in one of his videos.
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Bruce DID drop the wing chun. He was moving further and further away from it. Too many people who wear around him at that time all say the same things for it not to be true.

And Bruce never really did even fight anyone. He was a movie star. That’s something else to bear in mind.

What Dan Inosanto does is what Dan does. Most of the guys who came up under him now don’t do any wing chun at all. Erik Paulson and Burton Richardson are two BIG NAME guys who have dropped most of the Jun Fan (wing chun) from their curriculums. Paulson as you might know was a pro fighter for a long time. Richardson is a Dog Brother. That’s good enough for me.


[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

like i said ive put some flyers out now ill have to wait for the results i said on the flyer i can only accept 5 people to train with so that i have enough time to train with them all.How often do you think 1 should spend on there sparring a day? [/quote}

Oh, I would spar at least two or three rounds. You really don’t have to spar more than three rounds (two or three minutes per round). And that really depends on your goals.

Don’t forget that sparring is different than drilling. Make sure that you’re spending the majority of your time drilling. Save the sparring for last. Use the drilling to isolate and work on your SKILLS. Sparring is really more for the TESTING of those skills, rather than the development of them.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
you say u do the moves slow a few times when your doing it slow do you hit air? [/QUOTE]

NEVER hit the air. Every technique is either drilled against a focus pad or against a live partner (wearing gloves if it’s striking training that I’m doing).

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

do you move? and when you say a few times do you mean a few times a day or a few times and then dont do it ever again and move on adding progressive resistance?
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In more cases than not, there’s movement. 99 percent of the time.

When I say to do a move a few times, that’s to get the basic mechanics down. Once those mechanics are learned, you should never really have to go back to the introduction phase. You should be able to practice the mechanics against a partner who is resisting your efforts – even if he’s not resisting that much at all. The resistance is variable and progressive. Start out light and practice, then gradually add more energy to the drill.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

and what do you mean by drilling it out?
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I don’t know! [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG] I can’t remember using that expression.


[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

by that do you mean when uve added enough resistance you only practise them tecniques in sparring?
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What it means is, after you done enough drilling, then you spar. It’s as simple as that. Now bear in mind that what you worked on during the drilling, may or may not come up during your sparring. Chances are though that if you’ve drilled correctly and have developed some decent timing, your technique will come through during the sparring when you need it to.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:


what do you mean by you just tone down the intensity of the energy/resistance you're getting during drills [/QUOTE]


That just means that you don’t always have to go real hard when you’re drilling. The most important thing to do is to develop your timing and sensitivity. Use variable intensity / progressive resistance during your drills to gradually acclimate yourself to the resistance to your technique.

By drilling using isolation, you can work a specific thing over and over again until you’ve LEARNED to handle the resistance to what you’re trying to do. But let that resistance come on gradually. Take the time necessary to work the mechanics against low resistance in order to fully develop your technique. After you begin to feel confident, turn the energy up a notch and continue. That’s how you get good.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

Do you mean you dont use as much resistance against your sparring partner if so why? [/QUOTE]
Because you’re not trying to hurt your sparring partners. That’s not to say that you shouldn’t go hard on occasion! That’s important too. However, you simply CAN’T go hard all the time because you’ll just suffer to many injuries – either to yourself or to your partners. If you’re injured, you can’t train. If you can’t train, you’re not getting better. It’s better to scale back the intensity and spend more time training, than to go really hard and then mess your body up to the point where you’re done and washed up after a year of training.

The guy that goes lighter, will eventually rack up INFINITELY more experience and will subsequently become better than the guy who went hard all the time and got banged up and blown out – even though it may take him more time to do so. He’ll HAVE that time because he’s consistently training. And that’s the idea.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:


thanx for spending so much time to reply again by the way i got your email from that site if you dont mind? have you got msn? what country do you live in and what city?
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No worries! You’re welcome to email me anytime.

MSN?? Is that a messenger service? I’m not active on any of those. Just don’t have the time.

I live in the United States (in the state of North Carolina). The City is Winston-Salem (that is where the main gym is run). I am also working to start a group in the city of Charlotte (North Carolina).

Cheers!


-John

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The “trapping range” (the very range the wing chun bases itself around is an illusional range. It doesn’t really exist as the wing chun practitioners do it. That
range is called the “range of exchanges”. What happens when you’re nearly face to face but not quite in the clinch is, people throw massive amounts of punches at your head and shoot in to take you down! “Trapping” as the wing chun guys do it DOES NOT WORK. Never WILL work, on any decent opponent. THAT is why I don’t like wing chun. It’s whole ideology is based upon a false premise.

fare enough. Im not saying this will work but i watched one of paul vunaks videos he was saying that the straight bast can stop someone from picking you up from ur legs i think the BJJ people call it the double leg take down any way he was saying that the straight blast can stop someone from doing that to you and he done it on a wrestler and it worked. I think personaly that one of the good things about wing chun is that it teaches you to occupy your opponents centre line i think that can be usefull when fighting any kind of fighter to be honest i think thats the only good thing about it but i think all fighters would be glad to be able to occupy there opponents centre line.


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Paulson as you might know was a pro fighter for a long time

no i dont know of him who is he?


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Oh, I would spar at least two or three rounds. You really don’t have to spar more than three rounds (two or three minutes per round). And that really depends on your goals.

why does it depend on my goal?

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Don’t forget that sparring is different than drilling. Make sure that you’re spending the majority of your time drilling. Save the sparring for last. Use the drilling to isolate and work on your SKILLS. Sparring is really more for the TESTING of those skills, rather than the development of them.

So what exactly is drilling? i think i have a ruff idea.


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(wearing gloves if it’s striking training that I’m doing).


what do you mean by striking training are you just saying you wear gloves when your hitting sometink?

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In more cases than not, there’s movement. 99 percent of the time.


lol whats the 1 percent that aint movement?
and by move ment are you talking about on the balls of your feet and bouncing?


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When I say to do a move a few times, that’s to get the basic mechanics down. Once those mechanics are learned, you should never really have to go back to the introduction phase. You should be able to practice the mechanics against a partner who is resisting your efforts – even if he’s not resisting that much at all. The resistance is variable and progressive. Start out light and practice, then gradually add more energy to the drill.

how long do you think it takes to learn the basic mechanics?. Can you give me a good example of reistance i know what it is but i cant think how i would do it in practice? what do you mean by energy?do you mean effort?


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What it means is, after you done enough drilling, then you spar. It’s as simple as that.

i dont think you understand that question that i asked you unless i phrased it wrong what i ment was once uve got the hang of drilling somethink out would you continue drilling it out even know you can do it near enough perfect? or would you stop drilling in it altogther and just spar with it instead of drilling with it?

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Chances are though that if you’ve drilled correctly and have developed some decent timing, your technique will come through during the sparring when you need it to.


i dont know how to drill how do i drill and how would i develop my timing through drilling?

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sorry i dont understand the last sentance and i dont know what acclimate means?


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No worries! You’re welcome to email me anytime.
MSN?? Is that a messenger service? I’m not active on any of those. Just don’t have the time.


thanx. MSN is a messenger service i only go on it now and again.

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so if i was ever to go to that part of the states would i have somewhere to stay and somewhere to train?. i live in the United Kindom myself. Im starting muay thai today im going in a hour. Do you know of any other good styles which i can do over here they dont do BJJ they do normal JJ do you think thats any good? they do thichi aswell i dont think thats any good what do you think? Do you think i should stay in thai boxing or do another style aswell while im doing thai boxing? thanx again.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

fare enough. Im not saying this will work but i watched one of paul vunaks videos he was saying that the straight bast can stop someone from picking you up from ur legs i think the BJJ people call it the double leg take down any way he was saying that the straight blast can stop someone from doing that to you and he done it on a wrestler and it worked. [/QUOTE]
So, the straight blast is an unstoppable and unbeatable technique that anyone can do and stop any wrestler? Is that what you’re saying? You don’t really believe that do you?
As for what Vunak says and what Vunak does…it’s all really hearsay unless you hear it come straight out of his mouth don’t you think?
Besides man, it’s not about what VUNAK can do, it’s about what YOU can do or what I can do. Focus on yourself. Train the straight blast really well and then test it. Try it against some really good wrestlers who don’t mind mixing it up. See if you can stop the double leg. If you can and can do so a good percentage of the time with the straight blast, then it is everything that Vunak claims that it is.
However…….just don’t bet on it.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

I think personaly that one of the good things about wing chun is that it teaches you to occupy your opponents centre line [/QUOTE]
Wing chun is not the only art that is capable of allowing someone to occupy the centerline. The centerline is just a position relative to your opponent. You can do that in boxing. In wrestling, you’re taught to establish center control. With Brazilian jiu-jitsu, you’re always taught to establish positional control. Positional control is nothing new.
When is the last time you saw some wing chun guys do well in a MMA fight? Lets put it this way, you’d have to go back a long time just to find a wing chun guy – nevermind one that did well. You would NEVER find that. That’s saying something don’t you think?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

i think that can be usefull when fighting any kind of fighter to be honest i think thats the only good thing about it but i think all fighters would be glad to be able to occupy there opponents centre line.
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That’s cool man. Perhaps you can find something useful in wing chun. I personally don’t. I dropped any and all wing chun practice ten years ago and haven’t looked back.
If you enjoy wing chun, by all means practice it. Just test it again fully resisting opponents from other disciplines. Do yourself that favor.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

no i dont know of him who is he? [/QUOTE]
Paulson is a legend over here. He’s a long time JKD man under Inosanto. He’s just been around for a while and fought professionally in Japan and elsewhere. Nevermind.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:


why does it (sparring) depend on my goal(s)?
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Your goals as a martial artists are important. Depending on what those goals, you may need to adjust your training accordingly. If you want to be a competitive fighter, you will need to train harder. If you don’t want to be such a fighter, you won’t need to train as hard. It’s just common sense.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:


So what exactly is drilling? i think i have a ruff idea.

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Drilling is just isolating specific things that you do in fighting, in order to devote more time to their development. An example of drilling is, jab vs. jab. That’s where you and a partner do nothing but spar the jab. No other punches are allowed. You can isolate and train almost EVERYTHING! Do so and you’ll develop your skills much quicker than by sparring alone. Intelligent drilling is the key.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
what do you mean by striking training are you just saying you wear gloves when your hitting sometink?

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Yes, I almost always wear gloves when hitting anything. It’s to both protect your hands and to protect your partners. That is somewhat important….


[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
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That’s when someone is learning a particular movement or something…before they’ve really gotten a good grasp of it. It also means we’re just standing around talking or something [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

Sometimes when working a particular high count combination we may stand still momentarily. I mean in order to strike, you have to have a base to strike out of. If you’ve ever noticed, you can’t really strike with any authority if you’re moving around and haven’t established your footing. That’s the 1 percent.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

and by movement are you talking about on the balls of your feet and bouncing?

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We’re always moving on the balls of our feet, but we’re not really bouncing. This ain’t TKD here, lol


[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts: how long do you think it takes to learn the basic mechanics?
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That depends on the individual. How much time is someone willing to put in and how often they do their homework. How often do they visualize good technique when away from training, like when lying in bed at night? All those things factor in. There’s no specific answer to that question.

Since all really functional techniques are basic, it really shouldn’t take a VERY long time to develop some basic game. And truthfully, it’s not the mechanics that often need to be mastered, it’s the TIMING of those basic techniques that matters most. That requires alive drilling and sparring.

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Can you give me a good example of reistance i know what it is but i cant think how i would do it in practice? what do you mean by energy?do you mean effort?/quote]

Resistance and energy are basically the same thing. How must are your partners resisting your efforts to hit them or put them into joint locks? That’s resistance. How much energy are they using while resisting? Get the idea?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
what i ment was once uve got the hang of drilling somethink out would you continue drilling it out even know you can do it near enough perfect? or would you stop drilling in it altogther and just spar with it instead of drilling with it?
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I would always drill the fundamentals. That’s because fundamentals are easy, but require TIMING. Timing is something you can lose if you don’t drill it constantly. ALL techniques require a good sense of timing to execute. The easier a technique is to execute, the easier it will be to develop that timing. But it must always be drilled because that way, you can isolate it better and get more repetitions in. You can’t always work repetitions when sparring because the scenarios where a specific technique becomes available doesn’t always come up. That’s why drilling is so important. And, that’s where your timing will come from.

Now with that said, if I have developed a good sense of timing with my technique, I should be able to easily execute it during sparring – which is important as well. Sparring though, serves a different purpose than does drilling. It’s mainly to “test” what you have learned. However, sparring should have a goal and purpose and not be just for the chance to beat up your partners. It seems that a lot of people haven’t realized that point.

In short, I would NEVER stop drilling something. Drilling (alive drilling) is more important perhaps than even sparring.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
i dont know how to drill how do i drill and how would i develop my timing through drilling?
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Drilling is how you practice your technique. What you do is, isolate the situation where a specific technique occurs. Then you practice it over and over with a partner who offers increasing amounts of resistance to what you’re trying to do. It’s important that he resists your efforts to work the technique progressively over the duration of your practice. But don’t let the drill turn into a sparring session. That’s the mistake that many inexperienced people do.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
sorry i dont understand the last sentance and i dont know what acclimate means?

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Acclimate means to “get used to something”. To become accustomed to a thing or situation.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:
so if i was ever to go to that part of the states would i have somewhere to stay and somewhere to train?
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Well, you would definitely have somewhere to train! I wouldn’t likely be able to give you room and board at the moment. But I would certainly welcome you and do everything I could to help. I’ve already had several guests from overseas and it’s always a great experience!


[QUOTE]Originally posted by SOL Martial Arts:

i live in the United Kindom myself. Im starting muay thai today im going in a hour. Do you know of any other good styles which i can do over here they dont do BJJ they do normal JJ do you think thats any good? they do thichi aswell i dont think thats any good what do you think? Do you think i should stay in thai boxing or do another style aswell while im doing thai boxing? thanx again.
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Thai boxing is great. Pay extra attention to the development of your punching. You’ll do great I’m sure.

Stay in touch.


-John

Good Lord, JKogas.

You deserve some kind of award for doing this.

Make sure you thank the man, SOL!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MattJ:
Good Lord, JKogas.

You deserve some kind of award for doing this.

Make sure you thank the man, SOL![/QUOTE]

Just trying to do my part, lol. Trying to be a part of the solution instead of being part of the problem I guess [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG]

Thanks

-John

MattJ i know he does JKogas is a good man and i thank him alot for his information at the moment i look up to him JKogas knows alot of useful information. He didnt answer my last questions though but it dont matter i respect him for answering all of those questions i asked him Thanx again JKogas.

I'm sorry SOL - I thought I answered your question. Please repost that specific question and I'll do my best to answer it.


-John

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------So, the straight blast is an unstoppable and unbeatable technique that anyone can do and stop any wrestler? Is that what you’re saying? You don’t really believe that do you?


I never said it can stop any wrestler and i never said it is unstoppable i believe theres a way around anythink and every think. I said he said it can stop the double leg take down and im about %60 sure that it can but i would have to practice it to know for sure.


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yep.


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Besides man, it’s not about what VUNAK can do, it’s about what YOU can do or what I can do. Focus on yourself.

thats obviously true but i was just sayin what i heard to see if you think the straight blast is any good.

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I would if i knew any lol.


When is the last time you saw some wing chun guys do well in a MMA fight?

lol i watched only one of them fights a wing chun guy against a wrestler obviously the wrestler won but JKogas your missing my point im not gonna become a wing chun man am i im gonna take the usefull stuff out even know i aint tried taking the useful stuff out of any think yet i wouldnt know how to blend it if that is what ur supposto do is blend it?

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lol theres a wing chung guy that teaches about 30mins from where i live. what are you saying none of them have done well?

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That’s cool man. Perhaps you can find something useful in wing chun. I personally don’t. I dropped any and all wing chun practice ten years ago and haven’t looked back.

WOW ten years ago how long was you in it and how long have you been doing martial arts for?


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JKogas yer ok but practice it in progressive resistance?


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is he a teacher now? do you think his better than dan?

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Your goals as a martial artists are important. Depending on what those goals, you may need to adjust your training accordingly. If you want to be a competitive fighter, you will need to train harder. If you don’t want to be such a fighter, you won’t need to train as hard. It’s just common sense.

well i do train hard anyway.


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Drilling is just isolating specific things that you do in fighting, in order to devote more time to their development. An example of drilling is, jab vs. jab.

so how long would u spend on each thing u work about 20 minutes? would u decrease ther time u spend on it? would u only drill individual tools? so u wouldnt practice jab, cross or jab, cross, hook?

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That’s where you and a partner do nothing but spar the jab. No other punches are allowed.


so u wouldnt practice separate things for example u practice just the jab and i practice the stop hit to the shin? or u practice the jab and i only practice the hook?

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It also means we’re just standing around talking or something.

lol i hope u dont mean in training time [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif[/IMG]

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yeh ive noticed that. Ive also noticed that u can bounce and rush in while bouncing.

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LOL what are you trying to say..... so you dont bounce around like bruce does when fighting chuck norris in the way of the dragon in america its called return of the dragon i dont know why theres 2 different names but saying return of the dragon is just like saying entre the dragon 2 by that i mean the follow up to entre the dragon. If ur not really bouncing on the balls of ur feet what are you doing? and how are you moving?

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That depends on the individual. How much time is someone willing to put in and how often they do their homework

well i train my tools on the bag 2 hours a day plus i lift weights 3 times a week and go jogging 6 days a weak and 3 hours on the rest of my training. i do my homework every day and plus im learning from you so that could be classed as homework to.

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How often do they visualize good technique when away from training, like when lying in bed at night?

Lol i didnt think many people do that i thought i was one of the rear people that do that i guess im not. i visualize a fight going on with me and some one else sometimes someone that fights exactly like me some times a mad man all different types of people and i gotta make sure i defeat them before i go sleep lol.

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Resistance and energy are basically the same thing. How must are your partners resisting your efforts to hit them or put them into joint locks? That’s resistance. How much energy are they using while resisting? Get the idea?

yeh i get the idea thanx for that.

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Drilling is how you practice your technique. What you do is, isolate the situation where a specific technique occurs. Then you practice it over and over with a partner who offers increasing amounts of resistance to what you’re trying to do. It’s important that he resists your efforts to work the technique progressively over the duration of your practice. But don’t let the drill turn into a sparring session. That’s the mistake that many inexperienced people do.


lol me and my brother was doing somethink that before and it turned a bit into a sparring session but that was not my fault it was my brothers as he is a beginer and only trains when i go to his house.


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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Well, you would definitely have somewhere to train! I wouldn’t likely be able to give you room and board at the moment. But I would certainly welcome you and do everything I could to help. I’ve already had several guests from overseas and it’s always a great experience!


ok thanx for that would u be able to find me some where to stay if i ever did come like a motel or somethink and how much would it cost? and how much are the gyms with good equipment to train in?

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Thai boxing is great. Pay extra attention to the development of your punching. You’ll do great I’m sure.

im the fittest in that thai boxing place. the man that teaches said he loves my punchs and kicks ive got alot of speed and power he said and my partner said the same. i know i was hitting the pads with alot more speed and power than most of them probley all of them they was all watching me and one asked me have i done this before lol.

do u think its a good idea to go into 2 styles or 3 or 4 styles at once? or is it best to stay in muay thai for a few years?