Posted by: senseilou
The Nature of the Beast - 02/21/05 11:49 AM
I recently had the opportunity to talk at length with one of my Sensei for a long time, one on one. Some of the discussions were real interesting especially from his view point. We stayed up till 3 in the morning on a Friday and Saturday night, him relaying stories to me and history of the old days. I think what he had to say was pretty interesting.
1. The New Generation-This was real interesting. Sensei said that we are now looking at 3rd to 4th generation students. Most 1st generation students are gone, and 2nd generation are dwindling. He equated this to tracing your hand. Each one become less and less like the original. Sensei also mentioned that more and more people want the arts tailored to their lifestyle instead of people tailoring their lives to training. He also said he thought the ratio of serious students to casual students to be a 5 to 1 in favor of the casual student. I asked him why? His answer was simple, distractions! He felt that there is so much more now to distract one from training, from getting home later from work, to living further away from the dojo. In the earlier years he said it was a neighborhood type dojo and today people drive an hour to train. In one case I do drive 80 miles round trip to train with one of my peers.The other thing I found interesting, in the early days he had more students stay and talk, or sometimes even go out to eat after class. He says hardly anyone does that anymore at his school. He said he use to teach to 9:30 or so, but students stayed and talked till 11-11:30. He said he only had 1 that does that now, same with me, I have one student who stays after class to talk or get extra help.Sensei said everyone is busier now, and can't put as much time in training as before. Funny I had an e-mail from a student who told me he could fit in 2-3 hours a week to train, but that was it.Sensei mentioned when he use to train when he was younger, in the 60's that if he didn't show up for class Sensei called him and wanted to know why. Can you imagine doing that now? My answer was of course no!!!The enivironment of training has changed or so he thought and schools are offering unique ideas for people to train, like the black belt club etc, which just creates a more commercial environment. The commercialazation of Martial Training has changed the environment of training. When he opened his first dojo, he was the only one in town. Also, depending on location, there were many back yard dojo's, and now people want showers, dressing rooms and amenities, because of their busy schedules. This all boils down to time, people are having more to do, and less time to do it. Something has to suffer.
2.Style-Sensei had me laughing till my sides hurt about this one. The new styles, with catchy names, or initials, or Billy Bob Do, everyone now is trying to market their training, and changing things around. Sensei's quote about, "there are only so many ways to mess(put in explative)someone up" but now everyone has a style or an idea of a style. The biggest observation here was that he felt that there are 2 views of style, strictly traditonal, one style, and only staying in that one style, everything else lacks in comparison, to those who train in everything, "Kyu of all styles, Shihan of none" Very little in the middle.His biggest complaint were those who chastised and look down on people who are in other arts. Sensei said he has seen the attitude in all the arts,but some come accross more than others. One style of Okinawan Karate, and 2 Japanese arts he saw this happening more often in. Finally Sensei said he felt 'balance' was a forgotten tenant, and that students do not apply it to their training, or their life.
3. Titles was another interesting topic. This he said, was a real dichtomy. There are those who have gotten carried away and use all sorts of titles(Sensei took all rank distinction at Black Belt away from his students, they all wear just a Black Belt, no stripes, or black with colors. Shihans were owners of a school,otherwise you are Sensei)Then on the other hand, lack of respect by addressing seniors by their first name. He said many schools he goes to that the students call their Instructor by their first name, and all titles have been done away with. This he felt was as wrong as having 20 titles for all the Black Belts
4. History and Lineage-Sensei got really worked up here. He felt that students have just blown this part of their training off. In his childrens class he makes the kids go home and track down their own lineage. He said how you can youe expect people to want to learn about someone else's lineage if they don't care about their own. Sensei said if history and lineage are not passed down, in 10 years it will be lost. Look how students and Sensei have eliminated techniques or changed them, if the same thing happens to history and lineage, things are going to get distorted and forgotten. Without knowledge of the past, its hard to understand the future. He said the newer Sensei were the worse now. they want to tell everyone their thoughts and their ideas, and are neglecting where they got the information from. This he felt is going to be the death sentence to the martial arts
5. Lack of Belief-Finally Sensei talked about how 'magical' the arts use to appear to the public. there were not that many students, and what they did was special. people today do not see the worth of training, they way they use to. Sensei said "how many times have you heard ,that someone is not afraid of that Kung Fu crap you do" or " you guys are like a cult, your brainwashed"? Training is not as special as it use to be, probably because its out there more, and more and more people see it, so how special can it be. Kids were brought to learn discipline, and now, parents don't want anyone discipling their child, teacher included. Sensei noted the trend that everything has to be 'positive'. You can't criticize children openly in class, hold them back, or even use red pens to correct their work, Everything has to be done in a psoitive environment. Sense said when he trained , he positively got his butt whipped on a daily occasion. So todays youth are soft, no dodge ball, too much contact, getting them to spar, now that is a challenge.
Sensei was not criticizing, just noting the differences,especially how time goes on, people are drawn more and more away from serious training. People are just too busy, too busy for the kids, too busy for relaxation, too busy to train.Its just a product of our lives, and as Sensei said, "too many irons in the fire" Mom has to be mom, chauffer, coach, wife, peace keeper, and trying to find time for her to train is tough. Also men are not willing to take the time to take over, so mom can have the time to train. Bosses don't care either. Business occupies much more time now, and people are expected to do more than 5-5 5 days a week. So its hard for people to train, and do it like it was originally done.As life gets more and more complicated are we going to find less and less time to devote to our arts? As more and more schools open, is Martial training going to be any different than soccer or baseball? So where will the arts be in 10 years,any ideas?
1. The New Generation-This was real interesting. Sensei said that we are now looking at 3rd to 4th generation students. Most 1st generation students are gone, and 2nd generation are dwindling. He equated this to tracing your hand. Each one become less and less like the original. Sensei also mentioned that more and more people want the arts tailored to their lifestyle instead of people tailoring their lives to training. He also said he thought the ratio of serious students to casual students to be a 5 to 1 in favor of the casual student. I asked him why? His answer was simple, distractions! He felt that there is so much more now to distract one from training, from getting home later from work, to living further away from the dojo. In the earlier years he said it was a neighborhood type dojo and today people drive an hour to train. In one case I do drive 80 miles round trip to train with one of my peers.The other thing I found interesting, in the early days he had more students stay and talk, or sometimes even go out to eat after class. He says hardly anyone does that anymore at his school. He said he use to teach to 9:30 or so, but students stayed and talked till 11-11:30. He said he only had 1 that does that now, same with me, I have one student who stays after class to talk or get extra help.Sensei said everyone is busier now, and can't put as much time in training as before. Funny I had an e-mail from a student who told me he could fit in 2-3 hours a week to train, but that was it.Sensei mentioned when he use to train when he was younger, in the 60's that if he didn't show up for class Sensei called him and wanted to know why. Can you imagine doing that now? My answer was of course no!!!The enivironment of training has changed or so he thought and schools are offering unique ideas for people to train, like the black belt club etc, which just creates a more commercial environment. The commercialazation of Martial Training has changed the environment of training. When he opened his first dojo, he was the only one in town. Also, depending on location, there were many back yard dojo's, and now people want showers, dressing rooms and amenities, because of their busy schedules. This all boils down to time, people are having more to do, and less time to do it. Something has to suffer.
2.Style-Sensei had me laughing till my sides hurt about this one. The new styles, with catchy names, or initials, or Billy Bob Do, everyone now is trying to market their training, and changing things around. Sensei's quote about, "there are only so many ways to mess(put in explative)someone up" but now everyone has a style or an idea of a style. The biggest observation here was that he felt that there are 2 views of style, strictly traditonal, one style, and only staying in that one style, everything else lacks in comparison, to those who train in everything, "Kyu of all styles, Shihan of none" Very little in the middle.His biggest complaint were those who chastised and look down on people who are in other arts. Sensei said he has seen the attitude in all the arts,but some come accross more than others. One style of Okinawan Karate, and 2 Japanese arts he saw this happening more often in. Finally Sensei said he felt 'balance' was a forgotten tenant, and that students do not apply it to their training, or their life.
3. Titles was another interesting topic. This he said, was a real dichtomy. There are those who have gotten carried away and use all sorts of titles(Sensei took all rank distinction at Black Belt away from his students, they all wear just a Black Belt, no stripes, or black with colors. Shihans were owners of a school,otherwise you are Sensei)Then on the other hand, lack of respect by addressing seniors by their first name. He said many schools he goes to that the students call their Instructor by their first name, and all titles have been done away with. This he felt was as wrong as having 20 titles for all the Black Belts
4. History and Lineage-Sensei got really worked up here. He felt that students have just blown this part of their training off. In his childrens class he makes the kids go home and track down their own lineage. He said how you can youe expect people to want to learn about someone else's lineage if they don't care about their own. Sensei said if history and lineage are not passed down, in 10 years it will be lost. Look how students and Sensei have eliminated techniques or changed them, if the same thing happens to history and lineage, things are going to get distorted and forgotten. Without knowledge of the past, its hard to understand the future. He said the newer Sensei were the worse now. they want to tell everyone their thoughts and their ideas, and are neglecting where they got the information from. This he felt is going to be the death sentence to the martial arts
5. Lack of Belief-Finally Sensei talked about how 'magical' the arts use to appear to the public. there were not that many students, and what they did was special. people today do not see the worth of training, they way they use to. Sensei said "how many times have you heard ,that someone is not afraid of that Kung Fu crap you do" or " you guys are like a cult, your brainwashed"? Training is not as special as it use to be, probably because its out there more, and more and more people see it, so how special can it be. Kids were brought to learn discipline, and now, parents don't want anyone discipling their child, teacher included. Sensei noted the trend that everything has to be 'positive'. You can't criticize children openly in class, hold them back, or even use red pens to correct their work, Everything has to be done in a psoitive environment. Sense said when he trained , he positively got his butt whipped on a daily occasion. So todays youth are soft, no dodge ball, too much contact, getting them to spar, now that is a challenge.
Sensei was not criticizing, just noting the differences,especially how time goes on, people are drawn more and more away from serious training. People are just too busy, too busy for the kids, too busy for relaxation, too busy to train.Its just a product of our lives, and as Sensei said, "too many irons in the fire" Mom has to be mom, chauffer, coach, wife, peace keeper, and trying to find time for her to train is tough. Also men are not willing to take the time to take over, so mom can have the time to train. Bosses don't care either. Business occupies much more time now, and people are expected to do more than 5-5 5 days a week. So its hard for people to train, and do it like it was originally done.As life gets more and more complicated are we going to find less and less time to devote to our arts? As more and more schools open, is Martial training going to be any different than soccer or baseball? So where will the arts be in 10 years,any ideas?