POLL: Styles of Ju Jutsu Represented on FA

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AWP

Thanks for taking the time to read it. I am well aware of both the origins of Judo and BJJ. However, as has been pointed out, there is another forum on here for BJJ. Simple as that. For the few years I have been here, I have seen far too many people coming on this forum with BJJ queries, and making assumptions that BJJ is the only kind of Ju Jutsu. Regrettably, not all posters are as well versed in martial history as your good self. This had lead to a lot of unnecessary thread movement and occasional irritation between members.

This is a poll for Ju Jutsu. Judo is a popular martial art and sport. There are a lot of Judoka on here, and it is very likely they outnumber those who practice Ju Jutsu. However, that is not the information I sought to gain. And as you have read, there is a provision for BJJ in here if someone, like you feels compelled to register on this poll.

I have explained my reasoning. I am the author of the poll, I decided what I wanted to include. If you wish to gain information about Judo or BJJ and the people who practice them, you will find an excellent opportunity to do so on FA forums. You just won't find in my thread/poll.

The "logic" behind this is quite simple. The bulk of the material on this forum relates to Judo. Even outside this forum, there are many posts/threads about Judo. The posts/threads on these forums relating to Judo far and away surpass those about Ju Jutsu, not of course including BJJ. Speaking of BJJ, the post/threads relating to BJJ on the Grappling forum (the forum for BJJ) and throughout the rest of the forums dwarf even the amount of Judo posts on here. What we have is a lot of posts/threads about Judo and BJJ. What I was after was information about Ju Jutsu arts that aren't talked about as much.

Now, in no way is this Poll designed to infer that Judo or BJJ are any less derived from classical Ju Jutsu than other arts listed. Not at all. The reasons they haven't been included relate to FA forum members, not the arts themselves. As I recalled to Taison earlier, we had a rather angry young man on here once who proceeded to tell people that Ju Jutsu wasn't from Japan, it was from Brazil, and was invented in the 20th century. For a generation of MMA enthusiasts, "Jiu Jitsu" is simply BJJ, nothing else came before or after. I was very careful in what I included in the Poll as I didn't want to draw any of those kinds of posts here. By not including BJJ, I hope that anyone who considers BJJ as the only sort of Jiu Jitsu sees it missing from the list and wonders why. They see the other options available, and who knows, they might do a bit of research and learn something. I am the eternal optomist lol!

May I make a polite suggestion? You could create a poll in the Grappling forum to see who does what type of grappling if that is what you wish to know e.g. how many people do BJJ, Freestyle wrestling, Sambo/Sombo, Graeco-Roman et al...

Respectfully,

PW

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For what it's worth, my Judo experience far outweighs my Ju Jutsu experience (which was mostly with the WJJF). I find Judo far more engaging as an art than the Ju Jutsu I have studied. Ditto my limited experience (all two classes of it!) with BJJ, I consdier BJJ a far more engaging form of JJ than anything I did with the WJJF.

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Prize,
you're all over the board here. If you're doing Judo, you're doing jujutsu... for it is comprised of a combination of Kito Ryu and Tenshin Shinyo Ryu, which is in itself a combination of Yoshin Ryu and Shinno Shindo Ryu. It now has rules that preclude a lot of the more dangerous techniques, but it's still the same thing without the sting.

I didn't punch in the poll, more because there isn't a real place for the "other"... as Judo is actually jujutsu, and Brazilian Jujutsu is actually a Judo-based art. You seem to think you can only train one style of jujutsu, but I've done Judo for almost 45 years, and studied Aikido 23 years, and also done Hakko Ryu, Goshin Budo, Kito Ryu, Daito Ryu... where's the button for that? Many of the karate styles I've studied had jujutsu techniques in them that were clearly jujutsu, and not karate, but taught in the karate venue rather than as Jujutsu.

My point is that your almost have to have a "fill in the blank" type of poll if you're going to make a style comparison, and be able to include more than one style or system. Clearly Judo and Aikido use different mechanisms for throws, and someone like me would use whichever tended to lend itself to the attack, so it's a difficult question to ask "what's your major style?"

Experience is experience... and many of the jujutsu styles I've studied were done in karate schools or Aikido schools where there was a "secondary class" in that particular discipline, or done as part of the karate study, so while the "classical schools" might be hidden, they aren't as far gone as you seem to think. There are a lot of jujutsu teachers out there, many of them only teaching a few students "on the side" while practicing other arts.

Jujutsu is a tough art, and not for the faint of heart. Unlike a lot of combat arts where you get padded up and fight, jujutsu is fought between you and the ground in most cases, or in the case of armlocks, etc. between you and your ability to endure pain. You'll seldom find large classes of jujutsu students because it hurts to practice... but the classes and teachers are out there... you just have to look around to find them.