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I've heard many things like "judo is just sport".
But I've also heard that it's effective in a fight. How so? How would judo serve you well in a fight? Would throwing someone actually hurt them?
Is it really effective?
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The difference in training would lie in focus of techniques and ultimately of intent for those techniques.
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Other problem is that most things in Judo etc are based on the old method of how the Japanese use to dress eg the GI.
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The down fall of judo and some clinching methods is if a person comes up against some one who is sly fast and has high striking ability, head butts fists etc
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Judo could give a person more experience in the rough and tumble of a street fights if they have little experience.
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The down fall of judo and some clinching methods is if a person comes up against some one who is sly fast and has high striking ability, head butts fists etc and if only judo has been trained by the defender then judo men can and are wide open. Other problem is that most things in Judo etc are based on the old method of how the Japanese use to dress eg the GI. I also think it depends on a persons ability.
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The down fall of judo and some clinching methods is if a person comes up against some one who is sly fast and has high striking ability, head butts fists etc
Please tell me why Judokas are unable to headbutt, or use fists but will only try to throw?? No matter what art you learn you will have trouble against a good striker, but if UFC has taught us anything it is that the ratio of wins of grapplers vs strikers, favour the grapplers.
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In my dojo our primary is shotokan karate, which in it's throwing and clinching techniche is some what similar to judo. I incoporate judo into the karate lessons once they've learned the basic body movements and body shifting from karate. But randori is pretty much anything goes, we drop the jackets and spar in t-shirts or "wife-beaters" and strike like crazy, how-ever it ALLWAYS goes to the ground.
You just have to learn to adjust the judo, forexample arm based throws & leg sweeps much better choice vs a striker than going trying to muscle into a hip throw.
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The down fall of judo and some clinching methods is if a person comes up against some one who is sly fast and has high striking ability, head butts fists etc
In my school for every belt you're required to know certain atemi-waza, or striking techniques. Granted, you can't use them in a judo competition or randori (free-sparring), but you're still required to learn them.
ETA: We learn blocks too.
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The Founder of Aikido used to throw many high-ranking judokas all over the mat like rag dolls.
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The down fall of judo and some clinching methods is if a person comes up against some one who is sly fast and has high striking ability, head butts fists etc
In my school for every belt you're required to know certain atemi-waza, or striking techniques. Granted, you can't use them in a judo competition or randori (free-sparring), but you're still required to learn them.
ETA: We learn blocks too. [/h2whoa]In my school for every belt you're required to know certain atemi-waza, or striking techniques. Granted, you can't use them in a judo competition or randori (free-sparring), but you're still required to learn them.
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Ok good. But learning and automating a technique are differant. I know plenty of people who can throw 1 or 2 good kicks or punches but put that into a real fight?
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The Founder of Aikido used to throw many high-ranking judokas all over the mat like rag dolls. Many of these stayed on to learn aikido and in time, become famous aikido teachers themselves. E.g. Shioda, Tohei, Tomiki etc. etc.
Ok what about trying against an excellent striker??? Would he get thrown about? Dont think so.Come to think about it why didnt thir guy try against an excellent striker? This guy still alive?
And people say aikido not real...
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The down fall of judo and some clinching methods is if a person comes up against some one who is sly fast and has high striking ability, head butts fists etc
Please tell me why Judokas are unable to headbutt, or use fists but will only try to throw?? No matter what art you learn you will have trouble against a good striker, but if UFC has taught us anything it is that the ratio of wins of grapplers vs strikers, favour the grapplers.
*bows respectfully*
[/The question was about judo training since when are you taught headbutting or a high striking level in Judo?
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Grappling is better than striking????
Ahh the who is the best question.Grappler or striker? Answer? neither
A person needs both sets of skills .]
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Judo could give a person more experience in the rough and tumble of a street fights if they have little experience.
That’s what grappling training provides (be-it, standing or ground grappling). Of course you have to prepare for attacks via strikes to vital targets, etc., but overall, a lot of wrestling training will go a long way toward preparing an individual for a “rough and tumble”, so to speak.Quote:
The down fall of judo and some clinching methods is if a person comes up against some one who is sly fast and has high striking ability, head butts fists etc and if only judo has been trained by the defender then judo men can and are wide open. Other problem is that most things in Judo etc are based on the old method of how the Japanese use to dress eg the GI. I also think it depends on a persons ability.
Well, the way to address the weaknesses is to practice clinching (regardless of standing grappling art, judo or Greco-Roman) against someone trying to hit you as hard as possible while only obtaining your grips using the under and over-hooks. This IS easily done as well!
You don’t have to train full out all the time however. It’s more important to get your timing down and then add more power behind the strikes occasionally. It’s important to come hard but it’s MORE important not to get injured during training.
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John [Yeah but a person that only trains grappling is going to have to be very very fast and then its never happend to me. Why not train the grappler in striking as well? Easy in training attempting close downs> nigh on impossable against a realy fast striker.Grappler minus striking skills =a stunned grapplerx if their lucky or night night./quote]
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judo visually looks ineffective when you see two judoka sparring because they seem to get strait back up again after being thrown or disbalanced, this as i think we all know is because we're trained to land propery and roll properly.
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