Posted by: Tashigae
Cultural / technical questions about the Han sword - 05/10/07 11:31 PM
Hi there, could anyone here by chance have a clue about the proper way(s) to fasten the Chinese straight sword (jian)? As much as my iaido classes are pretty strict about the right way one should fasten the sword to the obi of the hakama, my gongfu classes never taught me that…
I’ve had the chance to see two kinds of scabbards for Chinese swords. The most common of them has a little chain attached to the scabbard, and although I don’t know the details, it doesn’t look like too much of a mystery (I would imagine they’re worn somewhat the same way as the older Japanese tachi. … [scratches his head and realizes he’s not that sure how the tachi was fastened either] ).
But one that got me wondering more is the older Han-style sword. The scabbard has a funny-shaped piece of metal attached to it. My first idea was that the belt simply had to pass through the long-shaped gap between the said piece and the scabbard, but that wouldn’t account for the then completely useless side parts of the piece. Besides, it would seem very impractical to me since the position of the scabbard fastened that way would in my opinion get in the way of the user’s footwork (or plain walking for that matter) and if needed couldn’t be got rid of without untying the belt entirely; and since every jianfa taolu is performed without the scabbard, I would assume that the Chinese doctrine, unlike the Japanese one, is to fight without keeping the scabbard on (Chinese jianghu movies – although a frequently unreliable source of information – confirm that, except in a few cases when the scabbard is worn on the back, Hollywood-ninja style).
I even wondered for a while if the Chinese sword was even meant to be fastened AT ALL. But I don’t think this possibility holds water either, because if the scabbard was merely meant as protection of the sword for transport, the metal piece I’ve talked about would be superfluous.
Same question goes for sheathing the jian.
Every iaido kata starts with drawing the sword and ends with sheathing the sword., but every jianfa taolu I’ve seen starts with the sword drawn and without the scabbard. Does anyone know how the Chinese straight sword’s 'noto' is performed? I usually sheath my sword the way I’ve been taught to in iaido, but I’m only able to do so because my sword – although of seemingly decent quality – isn’t sharpened on the edges. Unlike the Japanese katana, both edges of the jian are (meant to be) sharp. So you can forget sliding the back of the blade along your left hand…
Come to think about it, some early versions of the Japanese sword, although curved like the classical katana, WERE sharpened on both edges. How were they sheathed ?
I’ve had the chance to see two kinds of scabbards for Chinese swords. The most common of them has a little chain attached to the scabbard, and although I don’t know the details, it doesn’t look like too much of a mystery (I would imagine they’re worn somewhat the same way as the older Japanese tachi. … [scratches his head and realizes he’s not that sure how the tachi was fastened either] ).
But one that got me wondering more is the older Han-style sword. The scabbard has a funny-shaped piece of metal attached to it. My first idea was that the belt simply had to pass through the long-shaped gap between the said piece and the scabbard, but that wouldn’t account for the then completely useless side parts of the piece. Besides, it would seem very impractical to me since the position of the scabbard fastened that way would in my opinion get in the way of the user’s footwork (or plain walking for that matter) and if needed couldn’t be got rid of without untying the belt entirely; and since every jianfa taolu is performed without the scabbard, I would assume that the Chinese doctrine, unlike the Japanese one, is to fight without keeping the scabbard on (Chinese jianghu movies – although a frequently unreliable source of information – confirm that, except in a few cases when the scabbard is worn on the back, Hollywood-ninja style).
I even wondered for a while if the Chinese sword was even meant to be fastened AT ALL. But I don’t think this possibility holds water either, because if the scabbard was merely meant as protection of the sword for transport, the metal piece I’ve talked about would be superfluous.
Same question goes for sheathing the jian.
Every iaido kata starts with drawing the sword and ends with sheathing the sword., but every jianfa taolu I’ve seen starts with the sword drawn and without the scabbard. Does anyone know how the Chinese straight sword’s 'noto' is performed? I usually sheath my sword the way I’ve been taught to in iaido, but I’m only able to do so because my sword – although of seemingly decent quality – isn’t sharpened on the edges. Unlike the Japanese katana, both edges of the jian are (meant to be) sharp. So you can forget sliding the back of the blade along your left hand…
Come to think about it, some early versions of the Japanese sword, although curved like the classical katana, WERE sharpened on both edges. How were they sheathed ?