Collar bone PP question

Sometimes you can feel a tingling sensation in the arm. The three main nerves of the arm come together in the brachial plexus: medial, radial and ulnar nerves.

I used to a friend who was very fond of these when grappling- Perhaps you could use them as a set up point but honestly, he used to blitz the hell out of them, after a while I didn't really notice any effect, they became pretty desensitised.

I'm pretty sure you can do that from training. I've heard too many people saying they have desensitized and they come from diverse backgrounds. I know St 11 doesn't bother me at all. You could dig in as far as the skin will stretch and I can still talk and breath normally, even when people think they are pressing the point right into the back of the bone with a hooking finger.

That actually begs the question if the PP is still having any effect or whether we're just that used to it that we don't care... That would really suck to find out in 15 years that all that ST11 practice has lead to stomach ulsers... peachy.

Not for me. I've had opportunities to use pressure points for control in the hospital, with uncooperative or combative people. I have confidence that there is something to the pressure points. Individual people will vary in their sensativity and in the pattern of their sensativity. For example, my coach is very sensative to any points that effect his breathing. He is not very sensative to head points. I'm not really sensative for head points either but joint points do me in.

Sounds to me that PPs are unreliable and ineffective

Unless you’re using them on restrained mental patients

They work. Like anything else, they take a lot of training. They definitely help me when I need to restrain patients. I use them in grappling, tuite and in striking applications. They are disappointing for the enthusiastic beginner who finds a pressure point map and has unrealistic expectations about what he can do without training.

The pressure point your on about is called the Sub Clavian.(that outside of MA!) As it's under the Clavicle (Collar bone!)
Used as a control method, and taught as part of most arrest and restraint packages that I've come across.
Quite often used on protesters etc as will not cause any long term problem - as worst some brusing maybe.
Can also be applied to both SubClavian points - generally from the rear - as if you were dragging someone away from something. Fish hooking the fingers into the point- pushing down at a 45 degree angle.
And yeah, as it's been pointed out - does not work on everyone - generally I see about 1 in 10 that it has no effect. Thousands of other points to move onto tho!!
Would only use against someone using passive resistance against me - As it's not reliable enough - although effective enough when it does!