Posted by: FooChow Crane
White Crane History - 07/28/04 02:07 AM
Hi,
I am doing some reading on the connection between Ryu Ro Ku and Okinawan Karate and stumbled upon some very interesting statements. Hope someone can shed light on:-
• In Morio Higaonna’s “The History of Karate” he wrote – There is some evidence that Ryu Ryu Ko’s martial arts style was Su San Tai Pao which is completely different from the Crane style…
I know for a fact that Su San Tai Pao (13 defenders) is a Fukien Yong Chun White Crane form so what is with this statement ? You can view this form at www.fujianbaihe.com.
• He also wrote in the same book – The White Crane Sanchin for example, used to be called Sanchin, but is now called Happoren.
Anyone know this for sure? I do both SanJin and Paik Po Lien (I think Happoren is the Okinawan’s version) in Whooping Crane (Xia Zhong Xian’s stream). I also checked with other crane friends here in South East Asia and they are also unaware of this change.
• The same book (pg 55) – Their guide explained that, during the difficult times, many Fuzhou residents had fled to Taiwan and other parts of South East Asia. Though he had no idea where the family of Ryu Ryu Ko now lived…
• Patrick McCarthy wrote in “Hakutsuru Digest” that he learned Nepai from the great grandson of Ryu Ru Ko.
So did McCarthy accomplished what Higaonna failed in his mission to Fuzhou – locate the family of Ryu Ro Ku? Or are we talking about 2 different RRK?
I am doing some reading on the connection between Ryu Ro Ku and Okinawan Karate and stumbled upon some very interesting statements. Hope someone can shed light on:-
• In Morio Higaonna’s “The History of Karate” he wrote – There is some evidence that Ryu Ryu Ko’s martial arts style was Su San Tai Pao which is completely different from the Crane style…
I know for a fact that Su San Tai Pao (13 defenders) is a Fukien Yong Chun White Crane form so what is with this statement ? You can view this form at www.fujianbaihe.com.
• He also wrote in the same book – The White Crane Sanchin for example, used to be called Sanchin, but is now called Happoren.
Anyone know this for sure? I do both SanJin and Paik Po Lien (I think Happoren is the Okinawan’s version) in Whooping Crane (Xia Zhong Xian’s stream). I also checked with other crane friends here in South East Asia and they are also unaware of this change.
• The same book (pg 55) – Their guide explained that, during the difficult times, many Fuzhou residents had fled to Taiwan and other parts of South East Asia. Though he had no idea where the family of Ryu Ryu Ko now lived…
• Patrick McCarthy wrote in “Hakutsuru Digest” that he learned Nepai from the great grandson of Ryu Ru Ko.
So did McCarthy accomplished what Higaonna failed in his mission to Fuzhou – locate the family of Ryu Ro Ku? Or are we talking about 2 different RRK?