Posted by: ETHOS
CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 01/14/06 12:51 AM
HI all
I just wanted to ask you folks if you guys/girs have heard about a martial art system developted by Chuck Norris? I read it in the back of a Century catalog and i'm just to curious.
thanks in advance.
Posted by: Dereck
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 01/14/06 01:59 AM
Chuck is the founder of Chun Kuk Do ("Universal Way"). Schools that train in his method are apart of the United Fighting Arts Federation (UFAF).
Posted by: TeK9
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 01/14/06 03:16 AM
Wow he create dhis own system of MA? I never knew that. I knew he was part of that organization but I had no idea about his own fighting system. I seriously doubt he strayed away from Tang Soo Do, TKD and Judo. It's probably a combination of all 3. The name of his system is that in Korean or in Japanese?
Posted by: TKD_X
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 09/01/08 12:10 AM
I saw that chun kuk do thing in the century mag a long time ago too. they had cool black and yellow uniforms, black and yellow bos, and some other black and yellow stuff with chuck's name on it. i don't think i ever saw it again after that. did it ever take off?
Posted by: Yugen83
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 09/01/08 06:26 PM
I wasn't aware that Chuck had a black belt in TKD, I thought his mother style was TSD. I tried Chun Kuk Do before. It seemed like a cross between TSD and BJJ with Kobudo thrown in for good measure.
Posted by: TKD_X
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 09/01/08 10:26 PM
i would take it just for the black and yellow uniforms.
Posted by: trevek
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 09/04/08 01:36 PM
"Actually that's incorrect about the first westerner to be awarded an 8th dan in TKD. Years before two other Americans Charles Sereff and Edward Sell had received that honor."
I actually had this out with his fan-page and they sulkily told me I must have an "issue with Chuck Norris" and that it was true about him being the first 8th Dan.
I pointed out that a certain Black Belt website had pages about Chuck Serref.
They pointed out that the site belonged to Bob Wall, Chuck's best friend, and spo I should take it up with him (ya boo to you!). I did and Mr Wall not only agreed with me but explained that CN had been misinformed by the association which awarded him the belt.
I wrote back to the fan-page but nither it or CN's page on Mr Wall's site has ever been amended.
A shame someone as amazing as Chuck Norris needs to rely on duff information when the truth is amazing enough.
Posted by: VDJ
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 09/04/08 01:53 PM
AND if I'm not mistaken, the 8th Dan TKD was an HONORARY rank awarded to CN by General Choi for his contributions to the Korean arts (TSD).
VDJ
Posted by: trevek
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 09/05/08 05:06 AM
Which makes it all the more bizarre that he was told it was the first awarded to a westerner, as Gen. Choi awarded Chuck Serref his 8th and 9th Dan. (unless they meant it was the first Honarary 8th dan)
Posted by: BrianS
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 09/05/08 05:10 AM
Lots of honorary martial arts ranks are given to famous people. I believe Wesley snipes was given an honorary 6th degree in tkd.
Posted by: trevek
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 09/05/08 07:01 AM
Agreed, Brian. However, IF Chuck's 8th Dan was awarded by Gen. Choi I can't understand why ITF would tell him he was the 1st western 8th Dan when about the same time Chuck Serref was picking up his ITF 9th dan.
What is more, I am gobsmacked that while me, a mere nocody, could pick up an edition of TKD-Times and know CS (who I'd never heard of) was an 8th Dan, how was CN (involved a teensy bit more in US MA scene than me) not know of him or GM Sells... particularly when it is on a website he is a member of?
Bizarre!
Posted by: trevek
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 09/08/08 04:41 AM
these things are like the honorary degrees which universities give. essentially they show rcognition of the work of an individual in a particular field which reflects the values of the awarding body.
In many cases this is probably well deserved. For instance, CN promoted Korean arts and has done a lot of sterling work with social programmes like "Kick Drugs Out of America" etc. So if Gen Choi felt he deserved an honorary belt then fair enough.
It is a major problem when someone gets something purely for fame or profit. I recall one little girl who was too nervous to do her grading (when I did mine) and for some reason was awarded an honorary belt (maybe she'd done something else, I don't know).
Boy, did my belt feel a whole lot lighter and cheaper.
Posted by: ShaoLimper
Re: CHUCK NORRIS'S MAs? - 09/15/08 05:04 AM
This was a first in 4,500 years of tradition.
But TKD is barely 80 years old...